Jack Dempsey's Punching Ability Compared to todays heavyweights

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Jack Dempsey's Punching Ability Compared to todays heavyweights

  1. Waaaaay below average. Couldn't even compare.

  2. Below Average

  3. Average

  4. Above Average

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Devotee of the Little Red Book Full Member

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    Is it just a coincidence that the top 10 is populated only by 230+ pounders? Or does this have nothing to do with strength and power?
     
  2. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    A horrible coincidence that doesn't change the science fiction goggle wearers grossly overrating of how much strength and power these guys have.
     
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  3. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    You can substitute any LHW of your choice. Stevenson, Beterbiev, Joe Smith if you want. Point is none of them are going to come close to matching the punching power of their larger brethren by simple virtue of their size.

    But why must they knock out an iron chinned monster like Ortiz to prove the point? Willard wasn't remotely as tough or of comparable build. I suppose you could substitute a guy like Breazeale, who's kind of similar I guess. That'd be pretty damned impressive actually.
     
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  4. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    You mean compared to blown up LHWs who are magically supposed to be able to punch harder than men fifty natural pounds heavier?
     
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  5. Legend X

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    Deontay Wilder is 222 pounds.
    Some would argue that he hits harder than a 255 pound T.Fury.

    Size and weight are advantages in themselves.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I very much doubt anyone would suggest Fury hits as hard as Wilder.
     
  7. Legend X

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    Yes. Despite being 30+ pounds heavier.
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Oh, the irony!
     
  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey would be the Cruiserweight Champeen of the World in 2017.
    But not HW. IMO.
     
  10. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    There be dragons at Cruiserweight.
     
  11. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    Nothing magic about it they just do. Without bulking up to become to slow to crack effectively.
     
  12. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    Its only irony if you live in science fiction land.
     
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  13. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is not as simple as the weight Fury isn't a puncher and when he is in shape he isn't 30 lbs heavier.

    But by sheer size alone a 6'9" reasonably athletic man has the mass to hurt a smaller man without the same effort. Today's athletic big men can throw punches like any other fighter these days they are a different breed the era of the giant is in. Willard was able to kill a man with an uppercut and put many lights out prior to Dempsey the difference was speed Dempsey moved and punched fast. Today's big men athleticism is close to Dempsey than Willard and size coupled with the ability to use it matters.
     
  14. Legend X

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    Fury has good skills but he moves awkwardly rather than like a cat-like Dempsey.
    He's 6'9 so I don't hold that against him.

    This thread is asking how well Dempsey hits compared to today's heavyweights. It's not whether he'd do as well in this era, but whether he'd packed a good punch still in comparison to today's average.
     
  15. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am aware the point I was making is todays huge heavyweights can throw punches with nasty intent and their size alone they hit harder, Todays giants are trained much better on throwing with their full ability unlike back in Willards day. Reading what you are saying is Dempsey hit hard or equally as hard which I think it is unreasonable to expect him to hit AS hard as top tier punchers today. Caveat that with Dempsey has top tier power for all time and today he could KO any heavyweight same as David Haye can.
     
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