Jack Dempsey's Ranking

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Gone Till November Full Member

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    Would you rank him above any of the following heavyweights and if so why?

    Holmes
    Holyfield
    Lennox Lewis
    Wlad
    Foreman
    Tyson
    Liston
    Marciano
     
  2. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    No.

    Dempseys entire legacy rests on his perceived head to head ability, based on the opinions of his contemporaries. His record is **** poor for an all-time great fighter.
     
  3. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I largely agree with this. His resume (for whatever reason - inexperience, hunger, whatever) does not look too inspiring when contrasted with ATG resumes. However he did have a shattering punch, light feet and great speed. I think he'd have a good chance against most HW's on that alone.
     
  4. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    abovE listOn yes defiNitely
     
  5. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would I? probably not, although my dude above has listed the most likely candidate that i'd place him above. Could you or anyone else? Most definitley
     
  6. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's amazingly subjective but to use this board's consensus as a measure, from blasting Fulton to outhustling Sharkey, I'd say Dempsey's handiwork is a little better than credited.
     
  7. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You could make a case for having him above any of them, the question is would you?
     
  8. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you place a high premium on beating big heavyweights, then he is basically above everybody except Lewis.

    Oh the irony!
     
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What ? How does that work ?
    Which big heavyweights did he beat ?
     
  10. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The incumbant champion when he challenged for the title was a guy called Jess Willard.
     
  11. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes.
    But you're saying beating Willard puts Dempsey "2nd behind Lewis" in beating big heavyweights ?
     
  12. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Given the physical advantages that Fulton and Willard had over him, combined with the fact that they were clearly elite fighters for the day, it seems staggering that they could not manage some sort of effective defence against him.

    Even with Tyson, guys that size usually survived a few rounds by holding on, or trying to keep him at range.

    Yes, I would say that Dempsey was as effective against big heavyweights, as pretty much anybody has ever been.
     
  13. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey was a unique and phenomenal talent. One of the greatest hwts ever to live. How he ranks vs the above list is a completely subjective exercise.
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have him securely in the top 40 based on historical importance.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think you could arguably have him above Wlad and Liston.