jack demspey vs george foreman

It should weird you out. The whole thing's a little gay.

I think BB was trying to describe Dempsey as being top heavy which i think doesn't really bear out in pictures and i just watched willard-dempsey. Interesting bit about the legs. It reminds me of something extremely homo SuzieQ said about Fitzsimmons lacking hitting power because of his stick legs (of course contrasted with Marciano's veiny rigid erect tree trunks), and then I realized that a lot of snappy explosive hitters have pretty thin legs. Hearns, Fitzsimmons, Dempsey, Arguello, Jones jr., Robinson etc.

Different body types and punch mechanics create different results. There is no truly ideal boxing physique, apart from a few things like longer arms for range.

 

I implied what I have read innumerable times, that Jack Dempsey was from the waist up,stronger --- than an ordinary 190 6ft 1" heavyweight. I have never said he was "huge",but was VERY strong for his weight of 190 pounds. And as Swarmer reminded me Dempsey had "fast twitching muscles",as opposed to
weightlifters muscles. I am sure in his championship days, Dempsey's walking around weight was 210 or more. The heavyweight's those days were harder trained and fought at leaner weight's than today's dreadnaughts....

 

S, not to beat this subject to death, but a Michael Spinks, A Mathew Saad,
a Bernard Hopkins,to cite a few, were as tall as Jack Dempsey, so why was Jack Dempsey 10-15 pounds heavier than they were ? It wasn't his slim legs or narrow waist, it was his larger and denser UPPER FRAME. Where else ? Take care...

 

Strong enough to flatten,Morris, Willard, Fulton, Firpo,all as big as a George Foreman, though not as proficient...Timberrrrrr.

 

This ain't a bodybuilding contest. Dempsey looked great in some pics, not as much in others. There are probably pics of Machen where he does not look as built, and as for Ali, whose pic is up, he could not punch for ****. Dempsey had punching power, and hit harder than almost any heavyweight in history. Maybe hardest ever. Foreman did nothing great as champ, Dempsey did.

 

Marciano KO 6 Fitzsimmons- no supermiddleweight is beating Marciano. Deal with it.

 

All of these men had terrible skills. Louis and Marciano would have flattened these guys with ease. Those big men wouldn't stand a chance even with a Bob Baker who possessed far greater boxing fundamentals and fluid movement.

 

I saw bob Baker whip Rex Layne in 1955. good fighter. Would he have beaten the prime Fred Fulton who Dempsey almost killed in one rd in 1918 ? Who the heck knows. But the fact" that little,skinny" Jack Dempsey
"with no muscles" ,was able to decimate big 220 pounders, yes limited but
tough,tough rugged individuals,speaks to what kind of strong " animal" the
Jack Dempsey at 187- 190 lbs. was .When you combine, Speed, leverage,
and natural punching power, you describe a Jack Dempsey, and YES I to my last breath, believe a Sam Langford, Hype Igoe, Damon Runyon, Nat Fleischer, Jack Sharkey, Max Schmeling, Ray Arcel,and others who saw the prime Dempsey over any agenda ridden poster, who hates his guts....
They were THERE. They saw him pre Tunney. They RAVED about him, S, and their opinion meand more to me than posters who 80 years later
love to demean his legacy. Was he the greatest man to man.? I think it is a toss-up between he,and my favorite heavyweight in my lifetime, JL . Did he have the best resume as a title-holder ? No, I think Ali did,but in my
mind's eye I see Dempsey,because of his bobbing weaving style and great left-hook beating Ali, and Joe Louis at his best catching Ali,hurting Ali and koing Ali. Style, Style, Style....

 

If Dempsey fought a brilliant fight, he might make something happen, but quite frankly, Foreman is too big, too heavy and had WAY to much killer instinct here.

Willard was cowed very early, and then mugged. He was a big guy who relied on using his size a far different way than Foreman did.

George hit heavier with both hands(Not necessarily harder with the left, but I guarantee it packed more impact) and when he thought a KO was imminent, he came on like and avalanche, and in the early rounds, a 200 pound guy would have had a world of a time making him take a step back.

If Jack came to rumble, like he did against 90% of his opponents ever, he'd be right in Big George's wheelhouse, where he'd be the smaller, weaker punching man, and eventually, probably in the first three rounds, a sequence of shots or a big right uppercut would shake him a bit, and Foreman would be all over him like white on rice.

This fight ends with us talking about how brave and manly Jack Dempsey is as he's carried out of the ring on a stretcher. George is a terrible match up for him.

 

Just to clear something up if you go to this link there is Jack Dempsey's Tale Of The Tape - he is (apart from the freaky neck) almost a copy of say Evander Holyfield - Demps actually has a larger chest expansion than Holy and half inch larger biceps aswell and an inch bigger thigh measurement aswell so actually he has a bit on Holy in terms of dimensions - so he was not skinny by any means - he was very lean yes but trying to claim that he doesn't have a 210 pounders upper body size is frankly ridiculous - alround - he had a larger upper body than the 210 Cassius Clay for instance - aside from this as Burt has aluded to fighting is not a body building contest - think this issue was brought about merely in an attempt to down play a great fighter and also as a bit of a wind up

 

Really!?!?!? WOW!!!