Jack Johnson and the black heavyweights a chronology

Thanks. I've had a look and not been able to find them, but early fights in someone's record normally are harder to find, so I wouldn't really expect to. I'd rather have more evidence, but IMO they're probably legit. Boxrec is a bit inconsistant, as a few fighters have fights that are just referenced in later newspapers, like the Griffin-Childs fight "Exact date unknown. This fight was listed in Griffin's record in the Oakland Tribune." And there's meant to be a decent few of Wilde's fights from a pamphlet listing his fights, according to someone he did a load of research into him.

A Tut Nolan fought for the Aus Heavyweight title at about the same time as McVey's early fights, so I'd guess Mike Nolan was related.

 

Frank Childs gets DQ'd against John Rivers, like Boxrec said it was dodgy, and Childs should have won.
Los Angeles herald., November 30, 1892, Page 5, Image 5
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...s=griffin+childs+boxing+Griffin+childs+boxing

 

Thanks for the report in case the link dies
San Francisco Call, Volume 95, Number 145, 23 April 1904

I'm not sure you can use his ineffectiveness against Johnson against McVea being a good win, as it could just be that Johnson was that effective at neutralising him. He was being highly touted if you look at the newspapers on him I posted, and had a good win over Denver Ed Martin

Good find.

Los Angeles Herald, Volume 33, Number 31, 1 November 1910

 

I don't think anyone claimed he was a master boxer, but he was strong and powerfull, and highly regarded from a young age. Look at the reports I posted.

 

Hank Griffin Stops Ben Trimble The San Francisco call., July 31, 1901, Image 9 (lower mid right)
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1901-07-31/ed-1/seq-9/#words=+hank+griffin

Jack Johnson draws with Hank Griffin The San Francisco call., December 28, 1901, Page 5, Image 5
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1901-12-28/ed-1/seq-5/#words=+hank+griffin

 

Denver Ed Martin KOs Hank Griffin
Pre-fight Los Angeles Herald, Volume XXIX, Number 1, 2 October 1901
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a...-1--txt-txIN-denver+ed+martin+griffin-------1

Los Angeles Herald, Volume XXIX, Number 2, 3 October 1901
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a...-1--txt-txIN-denver+ed+martin+griffin-------1

 

Frank Childs KOs Bob Armstrong Sacramento Daily Union, Volume 97, Number 12, 5 March 1899
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a...--txt-txIN-frank+childs+bob+armstrong-------1

Bob Armstrong KOs Mexican Pete Everett Herald Democrat, December 10, 1898
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspap...en-20--1--txt-txIN-armstrong+everett-------0-

James J Jeffries outpoints Bob Armstrong
The sun., August 06, 1898, Page 9, Image 9
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...ed-1/seq-9/#words=bob+armstrong+Bob+armstrong

Colorado Daily Chieftain, August 6, 1898
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspap...----en-20--1--txt-txIN-bob+armstrong-------0-