Jack Johnson v Gene Tunney 15 rounds.

Johnson

 

Charlie Sheen by WIDE Decision. :bbb


I mean Tunney, sorry. :thumbsup

 

i like the ring analysis a few years back...tunney steals the early-mid rounds with movement and that delightful jab until johson starts timing him, parrying him and grinds him down down the stretch with that uppercut for a SD 15 (think ring had johnson knocking him out)

 

If Tunney wins a decision it wouldn't surprise me...

 

Seriously, who ever came close to KO'ing Tunney? Dempsey couldn't do it (at least according to the ref) with a flurry of his best punches. Johnson certainly isn't going to do it.

Over 10 rounds, I certainly favor Tunney. I think his speed of foot gives Johnson real problems as the latter wasn't really that kind of a mover, nor did he seem quick to shut down such by cutting off the ring. Maybe Johnson's roughhousing and infighting win him the late rounds of a 15 round contest and he banks enough earlier rounds to take the decision.

A bit perplexed on this one.

 

Agreed.

It would depend on how much of a lead Tunney builds against Johnson, or how much Johnson wants to fight in the early rounds. I could see a fight with a lot of feinting and feeling out for the first few rounds. Tunney lands the more telling blows early, Johnson gets a lot more serious and closes the gap taking the middle to the late rounds. Tunney wins a clear decisision 10 rounds, a close split in 12 and proably loses in 15 rounds to Johnson by UD. Jack would probably be a bit too playful early and pay the price, especially considering the social demographics of the time on race. Not saying he would ko Tunney, by I wouldn't put it past Johnson to stop Tunney around the 14th round or the last round.

 

What are Johnson's greatest victories? Against Langford when Lil Arthur weighed 185? Against Burns when he was 192? Don't say Jeffries because Ketchell or a dozen other contenders could have whipped him by 1910. Johnson's greatest victories were when he weighed below 200 pounds. Tunney was about 190-192 for his HW fights. Tunney had longer reach, Johnson was an inch taller. Really not much of a difference.

 

I rate Johnson higher on the heavyweight scale, but tunney would be a tough matchup.

Still I think Johnson ekes out a close decision over 15.

Probably a boring fight though.

Keith

 

Jack Johnson couldn't stop Gene Tunney on the best day he ever saw. The reverse is also true. Both men are durable and neither is a big KO puncher.

 

It's a tough call because Johnson seemed to fight in spirits and only enough to win when he felt like it ... I think Johnson was stronger, a harder hitter and just as fast ... however Tunney was fast and active and would fight at a fast pace .. I've never seen JOhnson fight at that sort of pace although reports of his pre-title bouts read that he did when necessary ... Johnson fought much better competition ... I favor him but only if he came to win ... not any of the bs he pulled often ..

 

Highly debatable.

Who did he fight better than Greb FIVE TIMES, Loughran, Dempsey TWICE, Carpentier and Levinsky?

The only fighter he fought arguably better than Greb was the one time he fought Langford. And he held a 30 pound weight advantage for that fight!

McVea, Jeanette, Burns, Jim Johnson and that shell of Jeffries don't compare to even the old Dempsey, let alone Loughran.