Jack Johnson v Jersey Joe 15rds ?

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  1. Mendoza

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  2. frankenfrank

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    who ?
    are you sure he did not KD any1 out of these in any1 of his fights against them ?
    who ? right , Layne was some bum getting cherrypicked for padding Marchegiano's record.
    And again , are you totally sure he did not KD any one of these ?
    Regarding all of these I have boxrec so I knew it all in a way , I just noticed Mendoza's reply to you , Johnson couldn't stop a ww when his purse depended on it. Did Wladdy fail to stop Byrd in their second encounter ? did he fail at stopping Chambers , these guys , unlike Thompkins made a career out of being elusive and are considered by people like yourself , not myself as belonging in the same weight class as Wlad . So , is it Wlad > Johnson , or just William Kid Parker > Johnson ?
     
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  3. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    He did KD Layne I'm sure.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    You make a sweeping statement that Walcott floored all his quality opponents,I give you 9 fights with 6 opponents refuting your statement .
    Now you want me to prove my statement?
    You and Mendoza must have gone to the same school of logic.
    Do you know what? I think I'll give you a pass in future, you are not wired up right.
     
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  5. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Walcott floored

    Joe Louis- 3 times. ATG heavyweight Champion
    Ezzard Charles- knocked him out cold with 1 punch. The first man to knockout charles for the 10 count. Charles was an ATG hall of fame champion.
    Harold Johnson- First time in his career Harold was knocked out. Harold would go on to become an ATG hall of fame champion.
    Joey Maxim- Floored. Maxim had an ATG chin and is a hall of famer
    Jimmy Bivins- Floored. Bivins is an ATG hall of famer
    Elmer Ray- Floored 3 times. Ray was the # 1 Ring Magazine HW contender
    Hatchetmen Sheppard- knocked out. Top 10 contender
    Tommy Gomez- knocked out. top 10 contender
    Rocky Marciano- First time in his career he was knocked down. Very good chin, and undefeated ATG Heavyweight Champion.


    That's quite a list of top men Walcott floored
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Johnson went down without being hit he suffered an injury to his vertebrae. Ray was stopped in his first fight with Walcott when Ray was 2-5-3 .
    In which of their three fights did Walcott floor 180lbs Maxim?

    Louis was dropped multiple times,even when he was in his prime ,which he patently wasn't when he fought Walcott.


    I have conclusively refuted silly bollocks Frankenfart's assertion that Walcott floored all his quality opponents.

    Charles was dropped 8 times in 8rds for a tko loss to Lloyd Marshall ,prior to his ko by Walcott
     
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  7. Swarmer

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    Charles was purportedly suffering from injuries of his own at that time though right? Something wrong with his hip?
     
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  8. mcvey

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    I think the punches that put him down landed on his chin.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    I gave you a correction in this thread already. Rocky retired at age 32, not 31 as you wrote. Fear not, looks like I am booked for the weekend, so post away!
     
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  10. mcvey

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    How about you admit you were wrong on Frazier being only 5 lbs more than Sharkey when prime?

    You posted this in your own thread about Jeffries v Marciano/Dempsey/ Frazier.I corrected you, he was 22.5lbs heavier.

    How about you admit you were wrong about Jim Johnson being fat?


    I posted numerous photos of him and ,some footage ,plus descriptions of him yet you did not respond .

    How about you ackowledge my correction of your assertion that "
    Unforgiveable Blackness", says the Johnson /Johnson fight was 20 rds? It does not.

    How about you answer McGrains questions?

    Who gives a **** what you are doing weekend?
     
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  11. Boxed Ears

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    This one goes out to mcvey and Mendoza:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhdcJ7K3XM[/ame]

    Because science has proven it nullifies rage.
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast.:guitar

    Originally

    Musick hath charms to sooth a savage breast ,
    To soften Rocks ,or bend a knotted Oak.

    William Congreve." the Mourning Bride" 1697.

    I prefer Summer Breeze, but I am more of a Bennett/Sinatra man myself.
    Or this guy.[preferably with Django Rheinhardt]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYiqVTcueA&feature=related[/ame]
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

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    1. Your wrong. Walcott floored Harold Johnson in the 2nd round with a crisp punch. It can be argued it was that knockdown which caused johnson to injure his back in the first place

    2. Elmer Ray was the # 1 heavyweight contender in 1947 when Walcott floored him 3 times in their 3rd meeting. Again, your wrong.
     
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  14. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Walcott also floored Hein Hoff whom was a decent fighter. I don't think the film on YouTube shows that
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Suzie Liston's Jab ,in which of their 3 fights did Walcott drop 180lbs Maxim?
    Which round did Walcott drop Fox [2 fights]?
    Which round did Walcott drop Baksi?
     
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