Jack Johnson v. Tony Galento

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  1. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hahaha so Galento was FAR better than Jeffries? FAR better than Tommy Burns?? FAR better the Jess Willard?? FAR better than Jim Johnson?? I'd struggle to say he was better than Jim Flynn TBH - and I'd struggle find a LESS 'busy' challenger in his (apart from maybe David Tua) - quite to the contrary against Louis Galento was very stand offish and he would be far to mistimed against Johnson (one of the all time kings as far as reflexes) - Johnson would put so may 'dents' in Galento he'd look like a pin cushion!
     
  2. Mendoza

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    I would pick Johnson in a 10+ round match, but agree with you. On film Galento has more skills than most of Johnson's title opponents and Galento himself wasn't very skilled to begin with! We have all see what little skill Ketchel and Flynn had on film, and how modest Moran's and Willard's skills were.


    Galento could knock Johnson out. Or he could lose a decision. One thing is for sure Galento wasn't a super middle weight who could be held and hit all day long, nor did he lack power. If you fouled Galento, he would foul you back. It would have been an interesting match.
     
  3. he grant

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    It is interesting how there are just some fighters that are board favorites nd over rated as such ... Tony Galento, please ...

    It would be hard to find a fighter more tailor made for Jack Johnson than a short, short armed, poorly conditioned, one swing at a time slugger ... as long as there was some form of referee this is a mismatch of epic proportion as Johnson would slice him to pieces .. it would be ugly ..
     
  4. mcvey

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    Willard would poke Galentos head off. Jim Johnson would probably beat Galento, Mcvey certainly would. Moran, and Galento would be close, my money would be on Moran.

    Galento had zero skills,he was out boxed many times by only fair performers.
    A prime Galento was twice held to a draw by Don Petrin , Galento was 220lbs to 180lbs for Petrin and 227lbs to Petrin's174lbs

    Petrin had the record of 22-10-1 and 32-20-2 at the time. These fights were in Galento's home town of N J .

    Below is a report of Galento's fight with 183lbs 14-15-5 Izzy Singer.

    Sportswriter Willie Ratner of the Newark Evening News scored it 8 rounds for Singer and two for Galento. The fans agreed with Ratner. Singer outboxed Galento, cleverly avoiding Tony's left hook. He had Tony swinging so wildly and desperately as to fall down.

    Johnson's challengers were on average 20lbs heavier than Jeffries.

    But why would anyone expect an objective, rational appraisal from you on the subject?
     
  5. he grant

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    Galento's legend is based on is knockdown of Louis which was a terrific achievement but that sometimes overshadows the fact that he took one of the most one sided beatings in heavyweight title history ... Tony did show a ton of guts, he did rock Joe in the first and drop him in the third but man oh man did he get a terrible beating ... Louis almost killed him ... Tony was tough as nails and had a ton of guts but to confuse that with legitimate chances against such deadly sharp shooters as a prime Johnson is running with the legend of Two Ton too far for me ...
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I agree, at least in so far as the version of Jeffries that Johnson fought. Willard, I admit was better, but then Willard beat Johnson. And the crowd in Paris, at least according to the NYT, thought Battling Jim beat Jack.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Reports I've read, indicate the crowd were pissed off by the lack of action ,you do know Battling Jim was hanging on at the end ,and that the Champion finished the stronger ? Or ,are you going by AP reports?

    I would give the NY Times credence if they had actually had a reporter on the scene.
     
  8. janitor

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    If you take two ATGs, lets say Jack Johnson and Joe Louis.

    You will inevitably be able to find some of Johnsons opponents who Louis would have done batter against and vice versa.

    This is an occasion, where Johnson is almost certainly going to shine at Louis's expense. He is going to figure Gallento out verry quickly, and make him his own personal play thing.
     
  9. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    seriuosly is there a point i am missing about this match-up


    johnson by steady beat down
     
  10. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    Utterly no contest! Galento totally outclasses "Lil Arther" and beats him by a wide magin; in a beer drinking contest!
     
  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No other heavyweight can mess with Galento when it comes to beer drinking contests. Galento in training:

    http://www.criticalpast.com/video/6...ping-to-exercise_drinks-beer_bottles-on-table

    http://www.efootage.com/stock-footage/64387/Heavyweights_Before_The_Fight/

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    One thing I'll say in Galento's favour, he was a difficult man to deal with in the clinches. What he did to the likes of Lou Nova and Al Ettore was savage stuff that had nothing to do with boxing. Jack Johnson knew how to handle himself in that department to put it mildly though. I envision a Johnson-Flynn type ending with Galento fouling himself out due to frustration. Corner retirement is another option.

    Johnson did not quite have the power of a Joe Louis to floor a man who had never hit the canvas in over 100 fights.
     
  12. TartanSoldier

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    Haha, nice.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel > Tommy Burns :good
     
  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Galento vs Jeffries would be an interesting fight
     
  15. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    jeffries might be able to win this one :good