Jack Johnson vs. Kovalev and Tua

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The only criticism of Johnson is the unknown quantity on how he'd fare against accurate combination punches.

    I assume he'd utilise more head movement and block as opposed to parrying.
     
  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's simple really. If you believe boxing hasn't evolved in 100 years and a peak 1908-1910 Johnson represents the pinnacle of the sport then you go with him. If you believe boxing has incrementally improved over the many decades since Johnson than you go with Kovalev and Tua.
     
  3. janitor

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    Even then you migth go with Johnson, on the basis that Kovalev was too small, and Tua was not the best or brightest of his era.
     
  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smaller men than Kovalev like Choynski and Ketchel put Johnson on his back, so he couldn't be dismissed out of hand as being too small for the job. Tua while not a historical great like Johnson, with his fairly advanced bob n weave pressure style, size and vicious power could give Johnson problems that he seldom would have had to face in his career. I wouldn't rule him out of either fight though, especially if he's given time to prepare under modern conditions.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Very reasonable post :thumbsup
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    These are valid points :good
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yeh when he disagrees with you.

    if he said wlad was atg top five u'd say he was spot on.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Johnson handles both tua and ko4clev.
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    only if you believe that evolution is the same as improvement. they aren't, or else how u explain human cant beat t.rex in the ring.
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :huh
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :think
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Can someone please remind me who the best heavyweight opponent that Johnson beat and what was Johnson's listed weight for that bout?
     
  13. HerolGee

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    yeh cos humans r more "evolved", so.

    its about niche ie. environment, as you want to point out. and you'd be right.
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The human has better reach I guess.
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It's a valid question,and a reasonable assumption.