Jack Johnson vs Muhammad Ali

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  1. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    you dont have to move around constantly thats not a flaw, Packey Mcfarland ,Joe louis, and Sam Langford didnt move around all day, thats a style thing not a skill defiency. He lept in witht that jab and lead very well, a lot better than ali he just PREFERRED countering . His defense didnt rely on strenght at all jesus, He caught punches but thats not a strenght thing. Fast or quicker doesnt mean anything , you dont land shots being fast of foot or hand .You dodge punches and land with position not speed and Johnson was better at getting those positions and Ali was in bad positions that he put himself in most of the time. Jacks skills are easily greater than ALis.
     
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  2. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    Alis so called speed isnt what got his punches landed , gotta watch the film and slow it down, his jabbing is not sophisticated enough to land on Jack. Idiots with high guards leaving gaps down the middle is a lot different than how Jack approaches fights.
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Such naughty words are starting to surface from the disguised posters mouth, mature men do not need to use such language when being critical of someone they dislike, Muhammad Ali, he will never make friends. Time to grow up son.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    We have.. A DRAW!
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You're good for a laugh, I'll give you that.
     
  6. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    THIS

    Truer words have been said by no man
     
  7. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    That person making that statement is an idiot , jack threw more than one punch a round, the film even more proves Johnson tears ali a part, Jack was really great at extending the rear hand and smothering the path for the jab , is ali gonna throw half extended jabs at Johnson, he doesnt have other tools, he can wait for Johnson but after Johnsons stepping jab hes getting tied up, there is no path for ali here!
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    We missed ya Serb!
     
  9. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    Johnson's defense in his fights worked well a time where boxers hardly used any combos and most punches were single haymakers, not barrages of non telegraphed combos. Johnson would attempt to counter punch Ali only to discover Ali's punches wouldn't stop after one or two, and unlike the crumbling relics of Jeffries, Fitzsimmons or middleweights like Burns or Ketchel, these punches would land. Johnson would be competitive for 2 rounds, but would have trouble landing his hits on the master of dodging, Ali. Alis speed and agility would triumph over Johnson's flatfoot "Prizefighter" style. Johnson might land a few hits but the vast majority would miss, followed by Ali landing lightning hooks and combos with three or more well executed punches, something Johnson would never have seen in his time. Of course Johnson attempts to clinch Ali by grabbing at his head, this prompting a barrage of hooks to his face. Unlike Johnson, Ali knows to guard his face when he is boxing. by round 4 Johnson is irritated, tired of Ali dancing away from all of his punches while landing his own and gets close to try to get a knockout inducing uppercut in, misses due to Ali's head movements and gets a right hook followed by a left jab and another right sending Johnson to the pavement. KO R4
     
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  10. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    he IS funny! I hope the laughs aren't over yet!
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Nor I! :lol: He was even funnier under his previous rendition serbian loudmouth. At least this time, he knows how to end sentences without exclamation marks.
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again why is this a debate. Ali toys with him
     
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  13. Zulu King

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    Johnson by brutal KO. Clay struggled in many life or death battles, sometimes even against smaller men.

    Johnson was nothing of the sorts. He dominated his opponents from bell to bell. Cassius clay never had the police have to step in and end one of his fights. Johnson was a beast. He only lost his title as an only man to a much larger opponent in a fight he threw anyway. Plus the heat was unbearable.

    Jack Johnson ko 5 Cassius Clay
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    lol
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali would clown him low difficulty. This would not be a competitive fight. Jack Johnson will do well to land 2 punches per round
     
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