jack johnson vs wladimir klitschko

You should use this insight to train the next world heavyweight champion.

 

You shouldve take the train to Jonestown but am i complaining.

 

Wlad destroys Johnson.

JJ liked to pick his shots from a distance and then tie guys up to wear them out with his superior size.

Wlad likes to pick his shots from a distance and then tie guys up to wear them out with his superior size.

Alas, one guy really is a giant and Johnson is not. JJ would essentially be trying to out-Wlad Wlad, and it would not go well. Maybe JJ would manage something against pre-Steward Wlad over 45 rounds. It's possible but I'd not bet on it.

 

Isn't wishing death on another poster against this forum's rules?

Anyway, access to Jonestown was by airplane.

 

Jonestown, london. so you can chat to me face to face over a cup of tea.

but if the first one that springs to your mind as more suitable, that is your free choice to interpret a cup of tea as death, mods cant stop you doing that, even though your jonestown doesnt even exist anymore.

 

It's a kind invitation, but I wouldn't want to take your time away from training the next heavyweight champ.

Perhaps you can pencil me in after you've removed 50 pounds of useless muscle from Joe Joyce, bringing him down to his natural 6'6", 188 lbs.

 

perhaps you can pencil me in too when Joyce wins something remotely close to what Jack did.

see you when that happens.

although to be fair to me, joyce is a gold standard amateur and hardly the target of my critcism. so if it happens perhaps you wont bother.

 

Well, I admit Joyce isn't a natural heavyweight like the pudgy, 168-pound man that Johnson won the championship from.

But I'm sure you can do something with him.

 

so its johnsons fault that racist society gifted burns a title stretch, yes?

 

Sounds like a pretty bad era of boxing, if the heavyweight champ was some random guy who was "gifted" the title by racists.

Are you sure you want to take training advice from an era like that?

 

are you saying that there werent any good fighters BECAUSE burns was gifted a reign?

thats the opposite of what I am telling you! You interpreted it opposite to the facts. Let me know why.

 

Who were the good fighters, how do you know they were good, and what did they write about their training methods?

 

anyone world class, take your pick.

what they wrote about their training is mutually exclusive to what they did in the ring.

 

Name them.

You're using them as examples of good training. If you don't actually know how they trained, that's a problem.

 

anyone johnson fought who was a serious challenge.

now i know why you tried to sneak in the issue of "training methods" into a discussion about boxing ability.

YOu are trying to find a leg to stand on by using the obscurity of the time period to your advantage. "oh its not recorded so it didnt exist!"

fail.