Jack Johsnon news reads. Battling Jim, MCvey, Jeanette, and Langford!

You're a little late. Everybody knows about the botched Langford fight.:huh

 

I am fully aware of the $100,000 gate to fight Langford, and also the McVey & Jeanette fights. However, when Johnson got into legal trouble, the promoters cancelld the fight in order to avoid any trouble.

 

Hi Mendoza,

Though I am a fan of Johnsons, I agree that the fight with Jim
Johnson should have been a TKO win for Battling Jim. Jack could
not continue due to an injured arm.

Further, it seems like Johnson chose to avoid Langford, because
for a while, Langford was coming on strong and KOing lots
of fighters, whereas Johnson was slowly declining. I think that
Johnson was aware that he was no longer was at the top of his game,
so he fought guys like Frank Moran, tough fighters but not of the
calibre of a Sam Langford or Joe Jeannette. Even Gunboat Smith
would have been a tougher choice than say Moran.

Grebfan9
www.firstroundboxing.com

 

I see that stick is out again.I knew where this was going from the first post,had a little bet with myself.The O Brien fight was a no decision 6 rounder,to win this fight OBrien would have had to stop Johnson ,since he was allmost totally devoid of power this was extremely unlikely,knowing this Johnson didnt train for the fight ,it was a bore Johnson grinned and postured and OBrien ran,luck had nothing to do with it.If a better contender than Jim Johnson had ben in there with Jack that night in paris Johnson would probably have lost his title ,a Gun Boat Smith or a Langford would likely have beaten him on his showing that night ,but then he would probably have been in better shape against a more dangerous opponent.Johnson ,after the Flynn fight was going down hill his dissolute lifestyle and troubles with the law affected his focus, some of his problems ,you could say he brought on himself,,he could have kept in shape ,he could have and should have fought the black challengers as |Champion,though he did beat quite a few when he was a challenger,something the white Champions beforehim largely managed to avoid doing.Johnson wasnt prepared to risk his crown against the best Black men ,in that he followed a well established precedent ,you can say as a Black man he had a moral obligation to aid ,and support his fellow "brothers",but moral s werent Johnsons strong point,Jack Johnson didnt fight for Black equality ,he fought for Jack Johnson,In 12 Years ,and 25 defences Joe Louis fought 2 black challengers ,one was a light heavyweight ,blind in 1 eye,the other ,an old walcott was so lightly regarded the fight was first promoted as an exhibition,I dont hear anyone crying about that,and dont tell me there werent better challengers among the black fighters than Harry Thomas ,Jack Roper,Gus Dorazio etc,Why not just say I dont rate Jack Johnson ,he is very overated ,his reign stinks he fought nobody and let it go at that,instead of making tortous threads to denigrate the man,you can research papers that will report Jeffries couldnt get his face out of the way of a ljab ,and only won his fight by durability and strength but you wont convert the guys that think James J was the nearest thing to Superman so why try?I think some one like Ali would have crucified Jeffries,but I have no interest or desire in trying to persuade Jeffries fan s round to my opinion.

 

Interesting post but try to use paragraphs or no one will read it (I wasnt going to bother)

 

Anyone who thinks Johnson would turn down a $100,000 payday regardless of the challenger then they are in cloud cucko land.

 

Whats a paragraph? Power puncher? Perhaps I should have prepared better? Probably my points arent precise or persuasive enough.Personally I prefer to plod along pretending I put up good posts. My plebian phraseology,has put a partial perversion on my perspective,please permit me to proffer my profound apologies to your proffered pedantic post.


Only joking ,I write as I talk in bursts,its a common fault of mine. PPPPPP !

 

Johnsons reign as champion was dire but for the record I can find multiple listings of the Jim Johnson fight as a ten rounder prior to the contest and only one listing it as a twenty-rounder. I feel it is safe to assume it was a ten so JJ stayed the distance. As to the validity of the decision i cannot say except to point out that some reports were derisory of the effords of both men and felt they were "stalling",