Jack Loew trained Billy Lyell

Pavlik is very, very easy to hit.

Pavlik isn't exactly elusive, I see Pavlik boxing well to start off with, but he won't make a dent in Abraham in the first four or five rounds (hurt him, but not enough to stop him)

Then, around the sixth or seventh Abraham will get closer, and during a vicious echange will put Pavlik's lights out.

 

Truth is Kelly gets hit a lot less now than you may think. He is very adept at picking stuff off with his gloves close to his head. You have to look close to see it sometimes. He toyed with Rubio a few times just moving head or body to avoid getting hit. Also, since he is tall, he takes punches at the end of a shorter fighters range because they have nothing on them at that point. They land, but no harm. Kelly can take Abraham out and NEVER get in range of Abraham's best punches. When Kelly is at his best range, AA will barely be touching him. In those few seconds he decides to throw that is.

 

He was tagged plenty in the Hopkins fight and Rubio is no indication that Pavlik will be any different against top-line fighters.

Gary Lockett even landed a punch on Pavlik.

Abraham will get to him at some point, and he will put him away.

 

Yeah, cuz Pavlik was a step slower in that fight for reasons already mentioned.

 

Arthur Abraham will beat Kelly Pavlik the day purple monkeys fly out of my ass while Stevie Wonder counts them! How many rounds would LuJaun Simon last with Pavlik? My guess -- 3-4, but he lasted 12 rounds with Abraham, and looked good doing it. This is a guy that was living off Bronco McKarts left overs!

The same version of Eastman that Miranda sparked in 7 rounds lasted 12 with Abraham. It took AA 11 and a 1/2 rounds to dispose of Elvyn freaking Ayala! A total of nine fighters who would not finish 7 rounds with Pavlik have pushed AA past 10 rounds. Abraham is easily the single most over rated fighter on ESB today, ESPECIALLY his power and defense. Pavlik will batter him from corner to corner until stopping him inside 8 rounds.

 

Then...... Its not a stupid thread!

 

Larios lasted one and three with Vasquez just 12 with Pac at a higher weight.

This whole he beat he he didn't beat he he knocked this guy out in this many rounds doesn't work.

Abraham has had some off performances, but he also destroyed Miranda in a much more succinct fashion than Pavlik did, even if it did take two fights to do it (the first fight would've been much easier had the headbutt not caused that horrific injury)

Pvlik seriously wobbled by Taylor, and buzzed numerous times by Hopkins. Abraham, his jaw hanging out after being butted, takes power punch after power punch fom 4-12 with those sort of injuries from Miranda.....Abraham has the better chin that's for sure, and that may just allow him enough time to wade through Pavlik's shots (which will probably hit his shell defence anyway) and throw short, fight-ending punches that, if Pavlik was wobbled by Taylor, will surely knock Pavlik out.

I know you're a very big fan of pavlik RedRooster, and assume no fight is unwinnable for him, but Abraham has the tools, and better to admit that now before you get majorly disappointed (not that Pavlik will dare take the fight anyway)

 

Severe credibility loss right there. :yep If that ref could have gotten away calling that injury due to head butt he would have. The head butt did nothing but loose Miranda 2 points and the fight by giving Abraham a 2 minute rest when he was on his way to being KO'd or TKO'd.

 

Loew happens to train a guy who beat a hype job that arguably had 3 losses already before this bout and now Loew is considered a top trainer now ehhh...

I wonder how many of these Pavlik fan boys actually seen the fight, I wouldnt be surprised if Loew didnt give any helpful advise at all just words of motivation for Lyell.

 

The bold red is where I stopped reading.

 

Not many people have claimed to have seen the fight. Have you since you are doubting the corner advice? Just pulling hate out of your ass no doubt?

 

I havent but I can tell you probably have since you are jumping the gun real quickly giving props to Loew.

So how did you score the fight, can you recall a single thing Loew said in the corner?

 

first of all i have seen alot of your quotes on here and hate to tell u bud ...but your an *******- that does not know what hes talking about..no one said loew is top trainer..just give the credit where its due and i seen the fight which i can tell u did not so stfu...and if u want to see some of it go to youtube...

 

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Exactly what I was thinking

 

1.Lyell gets credit

2.I would need to see the fight to see how much of a factor Loew played, and you all do to before giving props to Loew

3. Eat **** and die