Jack Loew.

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  1. Rocky2k5

    Rocky2k5 Member Full Member

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    Does anyone blame him for the way Kelly lost ? I think having no plan what so ever, and saying double jab between the first 8 rounds doesnt help. I thought with a different talented trainer in his corner he couldve made it more competitive. I certainly think it wouldve been Bernards night either way but someone shouldve told him he was getting no leverage b/c he was being smothered,or to just work the body and attempt a KO. I think Bernard still wouldve been the victor but kelly never set the table so it was pretty hard for him to eat lastnight.
     
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  2. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    ive always thought he was a loudmouth clueless *****,last night proved it,how the **** could kp double jab when he couldnt land the 1st.
     
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  3. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah he could have game planned a little better, I think Hopkins knew all along that Pavlik was over estimating his ability. Loew needs to incorporate new wrinkles into Kelly's style
     
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  4. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    yeah I was depressed by what Loew was saying to him between the rounds, when it dont work, its not working...
    double the jab then right hands..
    that was a poor performance of coaching.
     
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  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Enzo must be in the hopspital from broken ribs from laughing at last nights results ! Loew seemed clueless ..All he kept saying was double up on the jab ..Did he bother to see what Hopkins was doing to off set his timing ? Where was the body attack ..He had no answers for Kelly none !
     
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  6. Tom_Tocca

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  7. Rocky2k5

    Rocky2k5 Member Full Member

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    I felt there was never a game plan beside we are gona be the first to KO him. I just feel he is unprofessional and not a benefit at that level of the sport.


    Also Loew couldnt see Hopkins timing the slow jab he was pushing out not even snapping out and countering right over the top of it ? Instedad he tells him to double it. Amazing.
     
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  8. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    That's about it... :deal
     
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  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Kelly is a real good fighter but he needs someone that could take him a bit further....Pavlik thought he was going to KO hopkins and so did his trainer...You have to fight one rd at a time and try and win rds....Pavlik fell behind and Jack had no answers except double up the jab...Kelly has the foundation but needs to pick it up a notch if he wants to be a great fighter. He is a likable guy and has great heart needs more teaching at the level he fought last night and should stay at 160 where he has the height and reach advantage
     
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  10. martin0792

    martin0792 The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik told how he would never replace his long time trainer as he was the man to get him to the postion he is in to this day, I believe it was Pavlik himself who took him to where he is now not Jack Loew, he gave terrible instructions during the fight.
     
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  11. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    If I was Kelly , I would change trainer right now. Seriously.
     
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  12. warrior85

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    :good thats right,i think pavlik would be better off with a more knowledgable trainer from now on,imo loew was exposed just as much if not more than pavlik:rofl
     
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  13. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    i dont like when fighters use their trainers as scapegoats but in this case i think it'd be justified
     
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  14. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    pavlik needs to come to wales and train with enzo and yes i am serious. pavlik has the basics and the power and could learn alot from the style of fighting they teach in newbridge
     
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  15. Imperial1

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    Manny Stewart would be excellent in Kelly's corner .He could really take advantage of his height and reach !
     
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