Jack Sharkey InThe Deep End Early

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jack Sharkey ,"The Boston Gob" was matched tough early in his career.
    In his 6th fight he was in with old stager Floyd Johnson 37-4-9.Sharkey was 22 years old.
    Seventh fight experienced Homer Smith 47-29-5.Sharkey was 22.
    10th fight Romero Rojas16-4-2 . Sharkey lost this one he was still 22
    12th fight clever Charley Weinert vastly more experienced 62-14-2.Jack lost this one too.Now 23 years old
    14th fight very respectable Sully Montgomery 20-6-1.Jack 23
    15th fight a rematch with Weinert now 65-18-4 again Weinert beat him.Jack 23
    16th fight very capable Jack Renault 51-8-1. Good win for 23 years old Sharkey
    21st fight Bud Gorman26-4-7 loss for Sharkey, still 23.
    22nd fight the rubber man JohnnyRisko19-6-1 23 years old Sharkey wins this.
    In an era when a couple of losses wasn't the end of the world for a fighter, he could be matched hard ,lose and comeback having learned from the experience as Sharkey proved.
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Unfortunately, Pros don't fight enough for this to truly happen, and a loss is seen to derail a career, when that isn't true.

    Hard sparring has replaced these types of learning experiences (for good and bad).
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It makes sense when you take less risks the losses count for more.

    If someone takes 6 risky fights, wins 4 and loses 2, that's a proven fighter, it makes sense that loss isn't held nearly the same as someone who takes one risky fight and loses.

    Plus they often start when they are later, and have less room to improve.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Sharkey's resume starts to look a lot more impressive on closer examination!
     
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  5. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sharkey IMO the most underrated heavyweight champ, watch him on film.
     
  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack is one of the guys that I think could transition out as he was to today's cruiser-weights and-bar Usyk- beat the lot of them.
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Very good, skilled boxer. A poor man's Larry Holmes. I've always been impressed with his ability on film.
    I feel bad for him. He should, could have been the best of that early 30s crop of Heavyweights. Being forced to dump the Heavyweight Championship had to mess with his mind the rest of his life.
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He wasn't forced to dump the heavyweight championship.

    That is a ridiculous fairy tale.

    He just messed up, like most champions do eventually!
     
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  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    The best version of the Sharkey from the 1920's has a very solid case as an all time top ten cruiserweight .. the man could fight.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I'm really starting to believe that Sharkey is underrated.
     
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  11. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From the 1925 win over Risko(after one year apprenticship of boxing) until he lost the title to Carnera in 1933, he lost only to Dempsey and Schmeling in two controversial fights and a split loss to Risko. He mainly fought contenders, quality like Maloney, McTigue, Godfrey, Wills, Delaney , Heeney, Stribling, Loughran, Scott, Walker, Carnera, and Schmeling without tasting defeat. Not bad for a fighter labeled inconsistent.
     
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  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Jack Sharkey was a terrific fighter , underrated by much of history ... as stated above , he was matched very tough at the start of his career and learned his craft .. he clearly peaked in 26 - 29 as a fighter .. by the 1930's he was past his best but he is remembered for this fights ..
     
  13. Ringrat

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    If you read some of the outsider reports of his fight with Jack Renault, it seems like maybe Renault started slow but took the fight to Sharkey and likely would have got the nod anywhere but Boston.
     
  14. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Prime Sharkey is arguably the most impressive pre-Louis heavyweight on film. Insane reflexes in the Maloney fight
     
  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    With the absence of @cross_trainer ill say on his behalf he is the second best Sharkey and also still no Tire Iron Jones.
     
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