Jack Sharkey vs Ernie Shavers

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti A Being of Inexplicable Inclinations Full Member

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    Do you consider Dempsey's win over Sharkey legitimate?

    It's something I've changed my mind on.
     
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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why wouldn't it be "legitimate"? Do you think it was fixed?
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

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    Becuase the knock out was from a low blow, he should have been DQ'd.
     
  4. Seamus

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    Protect yourself at all times.
     
  5. Hannibal Barca

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    Perhaps. But it seemed to me Dempsey had changed the momentum with a vicious body attack. I don't think Sharkey would have gone the distance.
     
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  6. 70sFan865

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    Dempsey was losing the fight before low blow. I'd go that far that Sharkey dominated him.

    Mentioning Louis fight is silly and you know that. Sharkey was nothing close to his prime at this point.

    Sharkey faced plenty of styles, plenty of sizes and plenty of levels of athletes. Shavers brings nothing he hasn't seen before.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

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    Let me put it this way. Had the ref DQ'd Dempsey on the spot, what would have been the argument against that?
     
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  8. mcvey

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    The ko was from a left hook to the chin, Sharkey's fault he took his eyes off Dempsey.imo
     
  9. mcvey

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    Dempsey was coming back into the fight at the stage it ended.imo
     
  10. mcvey

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    "Sharkey said he wasn't looking,well what the hell ,why ain't you looking." Dempsey
     
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  11. Entaowed

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    I dunno, Sharkey had an excellent run, & without Sharkey turning to complain about being hit low & thus leaving himself unprotected, he beats Dempsey!
    Losing to possibly the greatest HW ever when at the end of his road?
    This would happen to almost every fighter in history.

    Shavers always might catch him, but he often lost against elites.
    An elite counter-puncher/boxer type such as Quarry-or Sharkey-should be favored.
     
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  12. Hannibal Barca

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    None.
     
  13. 70sFan865

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    Maybe, but Sharkey wasn't in danger before illegal punch.
     
  14. 70sFan865

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    If he was hit low, I don't think he had taking his eyes off Dempsey in control. I think that past prime Dempsey showed a lot of toughness in this fight, but he should have lost it.
     
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  15. Seamus

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    What is he turns his head against Shavers?

    That thing might be removed from his shoulders.