Jackson’s Mixed Martial Arts: The Stand Up Game (Ironic?)

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  1. snakerattle79

    snakerattle79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s a hot discussion over MMA blogs and forums on how Greg Jackson implements his “safety first” or “takedown = points” strategy through his fighters, now it’s kinda ironic to see this stand up book from their camp considering they’re not really implementing the book’s contents in their fights…

    Jacksons Mixed Martial Arts: The Stand Up Game (Ironic?) | Steve Rattlesnake
     
  2. Stoo

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    Im looking forward to Chael Sonnen's BJJ Defence Handbook
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are being so reactionary about Jackson's camp being boring and never wanting to stand, it simply isn't true.

    Nate Marquardt has improved his standup a lot, Donald Cerrone, Leonard Garcia, Bang Ludwig.

    Melvin Guillard and Jon Jones haven't exactly turned into blankets since training with him either.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    Maybe it's cause most people on MMA blogs and forums are ****in idiots.
     
  5. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Look at Rashad Evans, in TUF his style was almost exclusively wrestling, once he won the tournament he switched to Jacksons camp and his stand up has improved a lot.
     
  6. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Doesn't GSP train with Jackson? He's got amazing standup, if you ask me.
     
  7. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True

    True. And when he lost to Machida because he got outstruck, he used his wrestling in his next too fights; seems smart to me.

    True again, and while he was already a very good striker and gets a lot of his stand up training in Canada, he has gotten better as a striker while with Jackson.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Actually.... Greg Jackson is known for improving his fighters standup.
     
  9. Mister T

    Mister T Conquer.... Full Member

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    Actually, GSP said that Jackson is mainly his strategic advisor.

    He usually trains his standup with Phil Nurse in NYC for most fights and, recently, worked on his boxing with Freddie Roach.
     
  10. Stoo

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    His stand up has improved, but I have to disagree. His fight against Chuck he circled away until Chuck inevitably dropped his guard. Great knock out, but hardly a toe to toe schooling. I guess the game plan worked but hardly entertaining.
    In the Thiago fight Evans immediately pushes him against the cage takes him down and gets the mount. It was only Thiago's scramble that stopped the 1st round being a snoozefest. Evan's stand up in that fight consisted of moving his head side to side like a drunk tramp on a tug boat. Rounds 2 and 3 were basically the same if memory serves
    And we've all seen what happend against Machida.
    Point is Jacksons camp is quickly turning into the catenaccio of MMA. Great stragey for winning fights, and at the end of the day thats the name of the game. But at the same time, not the most entertaining
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    its not that hard to turn wrestlers who never were taught striking before into average strikers in the ufc, as for gsp's great stand up .............matt serra
     
  12. PH|LLA

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    That was 3 years and a half ago and it's 1 fight.
     
  13. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Probably why GSP will be more cautious in future fights; he knows he can get caught, whether standing up or on the ground.
     
  14. marsupial

    marsupial Monkey Full Member

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    According to your logic Anderson Silva has poor stand up since he got clipped 3 times by Sonnen.
     
  15. moreorless

    moreorless Active Member Full Member

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    Melvin has clearly lost most of the aggresion that made him an exciting prospect since moving to Jacksons. Nate wasnt exactly all action until Paul Harris left himself wide open moaning to the ref either.

    I wouldnt single out Jacksons as the only gym thats looked to exploit the faults in MMA's rules/scoring but it is clearly one of the worst.