Jacobs/Pirog and the middleweight division

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    For the sake of this post I'll make three assumptions. 1) I'll assume that Paul Williams and Dan Goosen will stop playing paddy cake with PBF and Pac, and rematch Martinez. 2) I'll assume that diBella will come to his senses and realize that a Martinez/Angulo fight is silly, and rematch Pdub. 3) I'll assume that the reports of Pavlik handling his weight issues are true, and that we will see a positive outcome.

    Now to the meat and potatoes. Those of us who keep close tabs on the middleweight division have known for a long time that the division is headed into another great era. It is jam packed with highly marketable young talent. We have (in no particular order)

    Danny Jacobs
    Dimitry Pirog
    David Lemieux
    Fernando Guerrero
    Craig McEwan
    Gennady Golovkin
    Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
    Matthew Macklin
    Andy Lee
    Matt Korobov
    Chavez Junior
    and a few more.

    At the top of the division we have:
    Sergio Martinez
    Kelly Pavlik
    Paul Williams
    Felix Sturm

    As the super six plays out and winds down, the middleweight division will be coming into its own. I think that in the future we'll be able to look back and see that the Jacobs/Pirog fight marked the begining of a new middeweight era. It's going to get hot, and the top guys are going to have to stay at the top of their game to hold all those young lions at bay.
     
  2. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    Paul Williams beats the **** out of Pavlik
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Only in fantasy fights. In real life Goosen nixes the fight with a demand for a 50-50 co-promotion.
     
  4. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    In real life Pavlik bitches out and fights a bum
     
  5. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How exactly does Pavlik make the middleweight division when he had to dehydrate so much in his fight with Martinez. And now he is on a 'vacaction' (probably getting pissed) it isn't going to get any easier

    Basically Pavlik is irrelevant at this point
     
  6. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I for one would like to see a giant tournament for this very reason. Almost too many good fighters from 154-68, and turning it into an event would be good for boxing.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    This time next year 160 will be one of the hottest divisions in boxing. My original post contained the names of 15 middleweights, and you're ******ed ass chose to limit your commentary to the post above. You are a clown.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Yes, a tourney would be great, but not like the S6. The S6 is to long and drawn out, and there has been way to much controversey over venues.
     
  9. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    I think only 2-3 of those listed prospects will make it to the top, but even in a few years time i'm not sure if any could trouble Paul Williams or the cream at the weight.

    Granted a few might grab some alphabet belts, I can see Golovkin doing well. But even the likes of Jacobs/Pirog are relatively unproven against the best and are already getting their hands on belt's.

    Maybe i'm being a bit hasty in my criticism, but I just don't see a many of those fighters going to P4P level. Obviously we will have a competitive Middleweight division in a few years, but I don't think their are any P4P starlet's coming through. Although I hope I am proven wrong.
     
  10. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont think Chavez jr, McEwan, Pirog, Macklin will go that far. I´m not too sold on Guerrero yet either. He looks a bit stiff and there to be hit, not to say a ko waiting to happen when takes on more skilled opponents.
    But i´d add Erislandy Lara..
    I´m looking also fowrard to what Pavlik and Sturm have left though. i dont think theyre done yet.
    Many fights looks like to get made quite early, Golovkin vs N´Dam will hopefully happen later this year too:bbb
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    My money's on f'n David Lemieux. I like this kid's style.

    :deal

    EDIT: Also, N'Jikam.
     
  12. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A few of those guys I think will stand out more than the rest like Jacobs, Korobov, and Lemiuex. While I think a few won't do too much like Lee, Chavez Jr(but he'll be a money guy in the division), and Macklin. The others will help to make it a deep division. But if guys like Williams, Pavlik, and Martinez hang around and guys like Jacobs, Lemiuex, and Korobov pan out the division alreadly becomes better than it has in years. And I can see a handful of guys from 154 moving up like Kirkland and Angulo. So in a year or two the division could look very good.
     
  13. barry big balls

    barry big balls You cant handle the truth Full Member

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    Have you seen korobov fight lately? He should be flying through the fodder hes fighting at the moment but yet hes struggling and lacks power to even ko that level of opponent.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I almost put Kirkland on the list, but I want to see what happens when he gets back in the ring.

    Obviously some of the guys on my list of young guns won't make it to the very top, but they may prove to be the type of contenders who can give the top guys respectable opposition between big fights. In my opinion that's an important part of creating a deep division.
     
  15. Hermit

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    I think of the S6 only Dirrell may potentially be p4p material yet it is considered a hot division. I think ultimately the S6 will make it run pretty cold though because of the publics intolerance of losses.