Jacobs TKO1 Quillin - settling whether or not a premature stoppage.

It wasn't, for the record.

Those whining that it was - state your case, in detail.

Anyone that votes in the poll, which is public, will be called upon to defend their view with a reasoned argument.

Mine follows:

• Quillin had been sustaining a beating for the better part of a minute without firing anything of substance back or intelligently defending himself with movement, clinching, or taking a strategic knee. All he did was hold up his gloves to limited effect, blocking a fair number of shots but getting hit with just as many.
• That big overhand right that Jacobs crashed into Quillin's cheek was a fight-ending punch, end of story. Just observe Quillin's reaction to it - his facial expression, body language, and how long it took him to steady himself even with the assistance (unseen by the ref) of the bottom rope grabbed in desperation. This was after Quillin had already had plenty of time for "showing" the ref signs of life as Jacobs continued his barrage, so for those saying Quillin ought to have been given a chance after that big shot wobbled him to his core - no, wrong. Quillin had plenty of chance, before that. He was a sitting duck for a big shot by that point and Jacobs, after getting a little crazy and sloppy in his excitement to finish, managed to finally lay a fist on him cleanly and it shattered Quillin. He may not have gone down, and may have started to present himself to Dock as "ready to go" a split-second after Dock had already made up his mind to step forward to intercept him and wave it off, but without Dock standing between them Quillin is a dead man walking and could have taken serious brain damage if Jacobs had jumped on him by the ropes and landed a couple more bombs like that one. That punch was satisfactorily fight-ending, I don't see how you could argue otherwise.
• Harvey Dock, as Malignaggi and Bernstein determined upon review of the video replay, did not make some kind of wrongheaded snap judgment in the mistaken belief that Quillin had gone down behind him. Dock stopped himself, forewent a standing eight count and went into a squat to get a read on Quillin's readiness to continue. Quillin was still not yet done wobbling and his eyes were the size of saucers and fixed rigidly. He was in that moment out, more or less, on his feet.

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The waffling crowd who diplomatically pander to all the shrieking ninnies with their "well, yeah, it was a bit early" drive me nuts.

Grow a pair and speak truth. It was a perfectly okay stoppage. It didn't look the way you might want a KO1 to look (so many fans think anything that doesn't resemble with video game precision their preconceived notions of how things ought to look need to be questioned, when they often don't), but tough shit - that doesn't mean Dock was negligent in his duties. If you review all the facts, the decision he made in the heat of the moment was actually the 100% correct one, not merely 'defensible'.

 

The lights were on but there was nobody home, the ref had no choice but to stop the fight

 

British stoppage

 

:deal

You could tell right away, the end was nigh from the moment Quillin was first hurt and the only thing standing between Jacobs and sealing the deal on the blitz was landing one big punch flush on the button, which he eventually did.

I was called away from my RBR thread halfway into Cuellar vs. Oquendo to deal with some issues from my personal life, but returned a few hours later and caught the late-night replay on Showtime Extreme.

As soon as Jacobs landed the first shot on Quillin that began the entire sequence and put him in deer-in-headlights mode, I knew for a fact (without having read any spoilers, having avoided social media until I caught up) that it had ended via KO1. Then as soon as I viewed the actual stoppage I knew for a fact that as soon as I came online there would've been a flood of knee-jerk posts from idiots claiming it was a bad stoppage without actually stopping to have a closer look at it. (as the Showtime crew, to its credit, did, after initially murmuring about it maybe having been a little premature and then acceding by acclamation that it wasn't upon review)

 

He couldn't defend himself. Good stoppage.

 

What stands out in my mind is that, immediately before the stoppage, the ref breaks the action and directs Jacobs to a neutral corner but there was no knockdown...

 

Quillin didn't have "one good left hook" in him at that point. That whole time Jacobs was flurrying on him there was ample opportunity for Quillin to rumble back - or even land so much as one solid blow to mitigate the siege and get Jacobs' respect. The "give him a chance" argument is null and void. He already had it, for the better part of a minute, while helplessly getting battered, prior to Jacobs crashing that monster OHR into his cheek and making him breakdance.

 

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this is what would have happened.

 

My case, Mayweather Shane. Had that been Harvey Dock refereeing that fight, Floyd would've had an "L" in the loss column.

Experienced refs should always ref title fights. You can't assume that you think a fighter is going down...turn your head knowing that there is no standing 8 count and observe a fighter and stop the fight. It isn't whining, it's "common sense". That's the rules.

Dock had no business getting in between the two because now we're assuming the outcome rather than seeing the outcome!:good

 

I feel like quillin could have gotten a standing 8 count, but I'm okay with the stoppage.

 

I think the stoppage was a tad bit not too premature, but I also know the referee has to err on the side of caution.

If the fight would have continued, who knows if Quillin would have won, or worse, suffered a permament injury or fatality.

Too many people call these types of fights British Stoppages, but the same people would be complaining that the referee allowed the fight to continue and Quillin got seriously injured. You can't have it both ways.

Sometimes we don't get what we want.

I can see both sides of the argument, and I can agree with both sides, but no one had to make that split second decision, but Harvey Dock. And we need to understand the referee looked Quillin in the eyes and saw a boxer that was not in clear mind...!!!

 

They need to implement standing 8's in championship fights