There will be a tale of boxing political power told on May the 4th (be with you), a tale of influence and a changing of the guard across Americas boxing landscape. Since the the announcement of the Canelo vs Jacobs fight, fans have been quick to asses that Jacobs, whilst a good opponent, will have no chance if the fight goes to a decision. This isn't without merit, over the years he has been the beneficiary of many decisions, somehow managing to pull a draw out of one judge in a fight in which he lost every round. Now however the fans are too wise to it, even more casual fans are seeing that Canelo is favoured too heavily by the judges thus many eyes will be scrutinising the judges scoring, including those of Eddie Hearn and John Skipper. DAZN has come on strong over the last year, signing Canelo and the rest of GBP, signing Golovkin and rumours abound that Klitschko will return to finish out his career on DAZN. They have been making good progress, the Jacobs vs Canelo fight is their first major show and pits the fledgling Matchroom America against the establishment - Golden Boy Promotions. This is a major event for the platform and no doubt John Skipper has no intention of drawing any controversy. Matchroom America has been slowly building steam, putting on some successful shows this year with the Philly show being it's highlight success so far. Their roster of fighters has been slowly building and bigger names have started to warm to the idea of signing with Hearn. Jacobs was their first major signing and the coming May the 4th fight marks the biggest fight so far of his career with matchroom, an important fight no doubt, and for Hearn to succeed in protecting his fighter politically - it would be a major statement GBP have been slowly building stars in the background, using their political influence (or it would seem) to ensure fighters like Jaime Munguia and Ryan Garcia follow a steady path to stardom. Said star power currently belongs to Oscar's main attraction - Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. Alvarez has had an extremely successful career so far, picking up a string of successful wins since taking his only loss, his career of late however has been marred in controversy, as there's a ongoing theme that if Alvarez goes the distance he gets the decision. Whether this is because of his star power, the roar of the fans or political power (perhaps even all three) is up for debate however it is begging to hurt his and GBP's reputation amongst fans and insiders. We have of course seen this kind of bias before with protected fighters, one who is perhaps Canelos previous counter-part, Julio Cesar Chavez. Chavez was adored in the Mexican fans eyes, and this brought him stardom in America, he was a terrific fighter however like Alvarez, seemed to be the beneficiary of officials decisions. Because of King's influence many questioned the Taylor stoppage as well as the robbery vs Whitaker amongst others, and it seemed fans were beginning to turn heavily on King and Chavez. Chavez would go on to lose his undefeated record via decision against Frankie Randall 2 fights later. So with Hearn and DAZN wanting to make a statement, Canelo and GBP needing to protect their reputation from public perception surrounding the officiating, not to mention that Jacobs comeback from Cancer is a great story for the masses - I believe we have all the ingredients for fair and clean scoring. After all, Canelo at 28 is young enough to again climb to the pinnacle of the sport. With the stakes this high however, on a platform this big the fans will learn - that boxing is bigger than Canelo.
Short version - Political power, stakes and circumstance will ensure Jacobs gets a fair shake on the cards.
No chance, Jacobs is getting robbed. Same things were said before the 1st ggg fight and then before the 2nd, yet they robbed GGG blind both times
You have to be riding Mayweather's nuts hard to believe that. Canelo won at least a couple of rounds and arguably up to 4 or 5 if you give him some of the close rounds. And the other 2 judges had Canelo winning 3 and 4 rounds respectively, which completely destroys this idea that one lone judge was so off from the other judges. All 3 judges had it relatively close, in Mayweather's backyard in a Mayweather promoted event where De La Hoya wasn't even present during fight week and was supposedly in rehab during fight week lol. None of the 3 judges had it anywhere near Mayweather winning every single round. When you exaggerate like that you lose credibility. The fans are wise to it are they, or are you trying to reward fans who cry about every decision that doesn't go your way? Nearly every close decision gets called a robbery these days. (Wilder - Fury, more recently Munguia Hogan, there's a long list) Canelo isn't the only fighter to have won some close tough fights that many don't agree with. It's happend to Canelo more than most, you wanna know why ? Because Canelo has consistently has taken on tough elite-level talent throughout his career. Canelo did enough to beat GGG in both fights, but GGG was gifted a draw in a fight he deserved to lose, so it works both ways. It's just that the majority of Canelo's fans are from Mexico who speak español so they do not speak english to participate in these online forums. LOL "marred in controversy" only to his haters who are too biased to score his fights fairly or realize he lives in Mexico which has a well known contaminated meat problem. We have of course seen this kind of thing with countless fighters across countless promoters throughout history. Mayweather getting the decision over Castillo in their first fight, for example, Wilder being ahead on the cards vs Ortiz in a fight most posters on here thought he was clearly losing, Wilder getting the draw to keep his belts vs Fury, etc etc. Those examples are arguably more egregious than any "gift" Canelo has been perceived to have gotten. There's nothing to suggest that there hasn't been anything other than fair or clean scoring throughout Canelo's career. That doesn't mean you can't disagree with all of the results. If you think GGG edged the first fight or somehow won the rematch there's nothing wrong with that. If you think that Mayweather won every round vs Canelo, well that's a little much but OK, none of it proves corruption or anything untoward going on. Judges are not perfect, you can easily mistake human subjectivity for corruption or conspiracy in boxing. I too believe that we have all the ingredients for fair and clean scoring here. But no matter what happens if Canelo wins a close fight many will come on here screaming robbery or claiming corruption because many posters for whatever reason just refuse to give this man his due. But if Jacobs wins lets just hope that he truly did enough to deserve it and didn't just get the decision because of the reasons you stated, that he came back from Cancer or because Canelo is perceived by some fans of getting favorable decisions. I say "May the best Man Win". And if it's a close fight, whoever is declared the winner less crying, less screaming robbery and more just "Great Fight it deserves a rematch". This works both ways, and no one has truly beaten Canelo convincingly in a fair fight. So if Jacobs is the first man to do it, and manages to eek out a decision, then more power to Jacobs, and that would go a long way to show that all the claims that everything is always rigged for Canelo to win is a bunch of shenanigans.
History is obviously lost on you or you have a short memory. I'm objective when it comes to looking at boxing, as such I couldn't care less about fanboys or haters or whatever it is you're talking about. The facts are that Canelo has been favoured in decisions, there's no getting away from that and no crying that "only haters say that stuff". I thought Golovkin won both fights, I also had Lara beating Canelo and many had trout and Cotto winning. 1 or 2 times yeah there's no pattern however he's given the benefit of the doubt in every fight that went to the cards in spite of most having him losing and you don't believe there's something to that? Boxing is a political and corrupt sport, unless you're denying this?
I had the same opinion as you, giving reasons as to why they aren't going to pull off another robbery. But then I noticed the Hogan robbery at the weekend with Munguia winning something he shouldn't have done. I think just like you 'They can't keep doing this over and over'. But then they go ahead and do it. Goldenboy are getting away with murder here. For Jacobs to win, he needs to have a 3 round advantage over Canelo after 12 rounds. He's good, but I don't think he's good enough to pull ahead that far. If he doesn't win clearly, he'll get robbed and that's the bottom line unfortunately. I'm holding out some hope that they won't rob Jacobs if he's a clear enough winner, but the reality is that they WILL rob him if it's a close fight.
Many had Cotto beating Canelo ? You've got to be kidding me. Find me some people that had Cotto beating Canelo. There were healthy splits between those who thought Trout or Lara beat Canelo vs those who thought Canelo won. That's what happens in a close competitive fights. Both of those were tough hard to score fights. Canelo got the win vs Lara because he outworked Lara, he landed by far the harder more impactful shots. He had better punch variety, he was the one coming forward, while Lara was in full retreat all fight throwing weak jabs and lazy right hands. It's no wonder why Canelo got the decision. He deserved it, now if you think Lara won there's an argument to be had there on landing more punches however light and ineffective they were. And remember it was a split decision. Canelo vs Trout, less had Trout beating Canelo than Lara. Trout was also knocked down. There was nothing at all controversial about Canelo winning that. There was a wide score and I get that, and the live scoring didn't help, but Canelo won that fight. The GGG fights took on a life of their own amogst the fans. You have a very thickheaded dedicated english speaking online GGG fanbase that just refuses to admit the man lost. The first fight was understandable, but in the 2nd fight you still had a GGG majority when Canelo clearly took it to GGG Mexican Style coming forward and beat the man to a pulp. GGG's face after the fight looked like he had been in a car crash. Even Sanchez said to GGG in his corner that he was losing, GGG's own trainer accepted the result. All 4 of these bouts were tough fights against top level opposition. Canelo did enough to get those wins. When you take on tough opposition you get into close debatable decisions. It's part of boxing.
This thread isn't about whether Canelo got the benefit of the judges. I watched all of those fights and saw with my own eyes him getting gifted decisions. Yet somehow you think your posting and bias toward Canelo is going to change my mind about what I saw? If you're wanting a fanboy fight go look elsewhere.
What is there to indicate that Golden Boy or De La Hoya himself had anything to do with how the judges scored the bout? I know you and many others believe this, but you don't know if there's any correlation. None of the judges were from Mexico, nor were they from California or Las Vegas. The judges were from Ohio, Florida and New York. What is there to indicate that Golden Boy or DLH had anything to do with their scoring? The fact that it was in Mexico may have played a role in the scoring, but to say Golden Boy is getting away with murder, I mean you literally have no basis to make that statement. You're just trying to sound like you have some inside knowledge about what happened which you don't.
Only reason that Jacobs gets the decision is because he’s an American. That, and Hearn has pull with DAZN. But it’s canelo that has the massive 350 million dollar investment from DAZN and not Jacobs. Jacobs will take his L and make his 10 plus million and probably retire soon after.
You stated that many had Cotto beating Canelo ? Really ? Because I can't remember anybody arguing Cotto won. With Trout the controversy had to do with the wideness of one of the cards, not with who won. So neither of those involved the wrong fighter winning, or the fighter who should have lost being gifted anything. So that leaves you with 3 fights, not 5, the Two GGG fights and the Lara fight, and there was a healthy split with Canelo vs Lara, plenty had Canelo winning that. So I don't see how you can see that as a gift, he clearly outworked Lara and landed the more impactful punches. If you think Lara won based on overall punches landed, that's fine, but it certainly wasn't a clear cut win for Lara that. The first GGG fight wasn't even a Canelo win, so he wasn't gifted anything. He didn't win any belts that night after putting on a master class performance. The 2nd GGG fight he beat GGG to a pulp fighting Mexican Style. Even GGG's own trainer said G was losing.