Jaime Aarón Munguía Escobedo vs. John Ryder & Oscar Manuel Collazo vs. Reyneris Gutierrez RBR.

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    You're opinion is of a robbery, while others may disagree. You're entitled to your opinion.
     
  2. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    So past decisions don't matter when I bring up that a lot of his recorded losses were suspect but they DO matter when you use them to say that he's not that good? :lol:
     
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  3. drenlou

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    What do past decisions of years ago have to do with today? He's not that good and he lost decisions whether you agree or disagree.
     
  4. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK bud
     
  5. drenlou

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    Is ceballos favored to win?
     
  6. The Professor

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  7. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    So why did you bring them up to justify your belief that he loses to Munguia, a fighter who virtually everyone I've seen thinks is not that good and was getting worked over by a past-it career middleweight? :)
     
  8. drenlou

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    It's funny to me that people are really arguing this instead of focusing on the fight tonite. Fact remains he's lost every world level fight except Jacobs, close or not he lost.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    It means Ryder bullied the much larger Fielding and Smith around the ring and beat them both up, it means he was good enough to deserve a draw against Saunders, and earned his win over the skilled Jacobs. Munguia is not on any of their levels. Ryder has also been at 168 for 7 years and fought countless men that are much bigger than him. Munguia has been at 168 for only ONE fight, and drug up a featherfisted wartorn shell of Middleweight Derevyanchenko who beat him within an inch of his life. Munguia hasn't even faced a real Super Middleweight... well he is tonight.
     
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  10. drenlou

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    Well see. Ryder is a tough guy, ill give him that but he's going to get beat up.
     
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  11. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    It's funny to me the guy who literally initiated the argument is complaining about there being an argument.
     
  12. The Professor

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    Round 1: Cabrera, 10-7
    Round 2: Ceballos, 10-9
     
  13. drenlou

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    You're the one who took the bait. Let's see if Ryder tolls him up like a burrito and if not you give credit
     
  14. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    You're the one complaining about talking about boxing on a boxing forum.
     
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  15. The Professor

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    Round 1: Cabrera, 10-7
    Round 2: Ceballos, 10-9
    Round 3: Ceballos, 10-9