Jake Kilrain compares eras, 1931

Interesting. I don't agree with anything but its still fascinating to read these observations by these old time fighters.

 

Proof that the old heads always existed.

Same tropes as well: he's good, but who did he fight? He wouldn't be able to survive in our era. I would love to be in my prime to show them how much better we were.

Here, we have putting Dempsey down. In the 80's people were putting Tyson down comparing him to Dempsey and how he's not as good as him. After that Lennox, Wlad and now Usyk. Same old, same old.

 

To be fair, many in the classic forum have embraced Usyk and Lewis. Its Wlad that many people can't warm up to, and that too for understandable reasons.

 

Love reading things like this.
That past era calling the new/younger gen.

 

Absolutely.
Music probably being the most applicable there.

My grandad called my dad's music rubbish.
My dad called mine and my brother s music horrendous.
I think my eras music craps on today's..

 

to be fair many of us youngsters think today's music is dreadful too and your era's music is better. Why? because companies no longer look for talented musicians. Instead they look for good looking people whom they can manufacture into pop stars.

 

Well At least there's some sensible young gen s out there.
The way things are going in the music industry today, it's killing it.
Wannabe s trying to get famous over night on what ever social media app.
There's something to be said for putting in the work over year's.

 

I don't feel the same way about everything to be fair.

I think the best boxers today are certainly in the same league as the best boxers from 30 years ago. Not better but not worse either.

Up until the last 5-7 years, i would say new movies were comparable to the best movies of the past.

But music is a different story. The fact that Taylor Swift is the most popular musician in the world shows a level of unbelievable brainwashing and corporate manufacturing. She can't hold a candle to Stevie Nicks, Debbie Harry, Pat Benatar, Christine McVie etc. among many others.

Not to mention all the great rock and metal bands. Your gen were lucky to grow up with such amazing music.

 

I like reading this type of stuff also but it’s always the same era related script periodically dusted off with different names inserted.

It would be the exception to the rule to find an older guard fighter who actually afforded equal credit or…god forbid…greater credit to the current crop than his own contemporaries.

Good luck with finding any examples of same but there might be some out there.

 

It took some time tho. Wlad is being viewed better than 10 years ago as well, that's for sure.

 

My personal view is every era has excellent fighters who could fight in future eras and past eras. Appreciate them. A good fighter is a good fighter. But all you can do is try to be the best in your own era. Most of these guys came up poor and were just trying to earn as much money as they could.

 

Never been a thread including Dempsey's name being compare to newer names that didn't feature or mention to some degree the idea the opinions of the trainers who were alive to witness both should be taken as a higher value opinion than those who did not.


Funny enough, this principle is hardly ever seen or heard of in any threads not featuring Jack Dempsey.


Because the all time popularity contest winner is Jack.



I think it's beginning to fade though. Less and less posters are Ring educated aged, more of that demographic is willing to accept Nat did a lot of conman'ing, and the historians coming out since about the mid 2000s have been doing a good job at setting the record straight on a lot of things.