Jake Lamotta Vs. Joe Calzaghe

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by CzarKyle, Sep 17, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    His defence is worse than Lacy however, his punches also not of particularly potent power at 160, meaning at 168, either the same or even lesser.

    Calzaghe is not afraid to eat one to land 3. La Motta would be ripped to shreds, Calzaghe is also much quicker than Robinson, that is undeniable, although the power comparison favours Robinson a bit. La Motta would simply eat far too many combinations, I'd say Calzaghe in 6 - 7 rounds from pure accumulation. He'd be landing at 80% or more.
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Why are certain Calzaghe fans on this forum such spanker's?
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Why does La Motta have a legitimate chance, when we have useful footage to compare impartially?
     
  4. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feel Jake would get beat too the punch all night long, but would turn up the heat in the later rounds trying to knock Calzaghe out. I dont think Jake would have enough to put away Calzaghe but I do believe Joe will get hurt late in the fight, all in all I think 80% of the time Calzaghe wins by decision.
     
  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Jake in a close one
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I already presented some commentary on LaMotta's footage in another thread in response, as you may have seen. He wasn't the clumsy oaf you make him out to be.
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I haven't seen, but I'll check and if it's a good retort then I'll fire mine back.:good
     
  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Calzaghe is not faster than Robinson--not of hand, and especially not of foot. He appears to hit almost as fast only when he puts no leverage behind his shots. If Robinson's form was equally bad, he would be far faster than Calzaghe.
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Sounds good. :good
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Robinson on video looks significantly slower than Calzaghe in hand and foot, I don't understand what you are watching...:think
     
  11. CzarKyle

    CzarKyle Member Full Member

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    I'm not a big fan of pulling this card, but it appears that some people are refusing to understand other's points. Which proves a lot to me about certain characters in these forums. It's such obvious bias it's ridiculous. It's the very same reason I've been here for 2.5 years and have only had around 500 posts. I don't say much because it falls on deaf ears.

    If we have the footage to make comparisons I suggest some people watch Jake Lamotta, then watch Joe Calzaghe (or the other way around, whatever).

    I say no matter how good Calzaghe is, light punches do not work against Lamotta. Even if the slaps cause some form of head snap. I cannot imagine a fighter slapping hard enough cause serious damage (I just cannot see the impact being too hard from a slap, that is unless there is someone willing to undertake the calculations of that task). I have seen a lot of Calzaghe fights mind you and as much Lamotta I can get my hands on. One thing I did forget was Joe's speed. I underrated it a bit, but above all that I still can't see Joe winning. Later rounds will favor Lamotta. He's one tough guy. I think both fighter are good. Joe wasn't raised in the fighting system that Lamotta is accustomed to.




    Jake Lamotta Vs. Marcel Cerdan (best footage I could find)
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laAN5PhKgKI&mode=related&search=[/YT]

    Joe Calzaghe Vs. Peter Manfredo Jr. (once again, best uniterrupted source of footage)
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv1Et0W3xeI&mode=related&search=[/YT]
     
  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I tend to think Calzaghe is an all time great. If Calzaghe wins the Kessler fight, he’s hall of fame bound for sure. Here's the thing to focus on. Lamotta was not a big puncher. He isn't going to knock Calzaghe out. Lamotta could club Calzaghe a bit, but skills would prevail here. Calzaghe is a very consistent fighter. I like Calzaghe via decision.

    Some Lamotta fans might roll their eyes, but in truth Lamotta lost a lot of decisions to fighters outside of Robinson....and Calzaghe has more skills than the other fighters who beat LaMotta.
     
  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe would school LaMotta, I wouldn't exclude late stoppage by the referee. This won't be competitive at all.
     
  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The only time that Calzaghe's hands are as fast as Robinson's are when he's not getting any leverage at all with his punches. By that rationalle, this guy's faster than Calzaghe:

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  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch the Lacy fight mate, fast punches with reasonable leverage in that one.

    Robinson has faster, powerful short hooks, that is about it.