Jake Lamotta vs Roy Jones, Jr @ middleweight

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Say prime RJJ replaces Sugar Ray Robinson vs Lamotta in 1951. How does that fight proceed?
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Roy would whip Jake`s ass. Not because LaMotta wasn`t a good fighter but because The Raging Bull wouldnt be able to use one of his best weapons/tactics that worked with Robinson. His physical strength, pressure and roughouse tactics. Jake was good at it. He was a smart fighter at that style. Roy Jones just wouldnt get pushed around and dominated as much in those moments when LaMotta can find him which wont be often.

    Jones was naturally bigger than Sugar Ray and his power was similar IMO. LaMotta doesnt see the 10th. Too easy of a target.
     
  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe so a '51 version of Jake ... since the thread is a prime RJJ ... Roll back the years for Jake and I'm taking him
     
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  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    How do you see LaMotta getting to Jones? Roy was very slippery.
     
  6. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes very slippery ... But Prime LaMotta was strong too, tough as hell, steel chin, and better defensively than given credit for , imo, as he was good at rolling with punches while getting hit .. RJJ is tough to analysis in h2h matchups because as he if off the charts with the eye test .. He just wasn't tested that much .. He wasn't fighting the quality tough guys like LaMotta was .. so his resume just doesn't compare, imo .. And I don't see RJJ knocking him out..I see RJJ moving a lot and outpointing Jake early to mid rounds, then I think LaMotta's pressure and body work comes into play, banging him to the body in the later rounds and getting the decision or late stoppage in the 14th or 15th ... 12 rounds , a smart RJJ gets the decision
     
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Good points. Your right in that Roy was like from another planet. He would dominate most of the time. We didnt see him pushed in his prime much. I don`t think Jones would lay LaMotta out but it may be stopped eventually.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Yep.
     
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  9. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Part of the problem in comparing fighters from these two eras is the same day weigh in; could RJJ even had made weight and then fought on the same day? And still be lightening fast? And go 15 rounds if need be?
     
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  10. slash

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    glen johnson-roy jones all over again
     
  11. Bummy Davis

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    SRR fought all kinds & styles, Jones was great but never really fought a pressure guy like LaMotta who was strong for 15 rds. I think Jones fights smart but cant stop Jake Decision for a prime Jones but not so easy
     
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  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    It`s a big ask to pressure a guy that is standing behind you. Roy Jones had the fastest footwork I`v ever seen in boxing.
     
  13. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    That’s very true. If it’s same day weigh-ins, the only versions of RJJ that could make 160 would probably be a version that just turned pro and was too inexperienced to beat LaMotta.

    If we’re talking day before weigh-ins, then we’ve got a 1993-94 RJJ who had more experienced and was starting to enter his prime. That version I would pick over LaMotta. LaMotta wouldn’t enjoy that natural size advantage over Ray, who started off turning pro as a lightweight.
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Maybe I should've said the best version of Lamotta
     
  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    This is something I didn't think about and it could make a difference