Jake LaMotta vs Tommy Hearns?

I know Lamotta had a hell of a chin taking punches from Robinson and Satterfield but I think Hearns hits harder, is more aggressive starter and is very accurate. I think he maybe able to stop Lamotta, after all the fully grown Robinson did, as did LHWs who imo Hearns possibly hit harder than. Hearns had a habit of blowing away men that no one else could, if Duran never fought him people would laugh at the notion of Duran who was never stopped in 20+years being stopped by Hearns, but it happened

Barkely had a hell of allot 1 punch power though, he was an awful lot bigger than Lamotta too

Like you say Robinson wasn't a fully fledge MW until the last fight, Hearns was naturally bigger than Robinson and that is a key factor here. Although Lamotta if he gets inside gives Hearns all kind of problems

Lamotta wasn't really a puncher though, If he stops it would be late on accumulation with Hearns tiring, ala Leonard

 

he smashed robinson through the ropes in their first fight right? that's basically how i see this going, but with hearns not getting back up.

 

Hearns chin is underrated and Barkley was if nothing else was huge puncher

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Excuse me making the same point twice, I thought my first post hadn't posted atsch

Did he punch him through the ropes or do a Lamotta a throw, ala Cerdan? :huh Either way you have to bare in mind Robo was 143lbs for that fight, Hearns would be a solid 160lbs, maybe 165lbs after breakfast and a drink

 

la motta knocked sugar ray through the ropes, i don't think barkley has ever hit anyone that hard save from hearns.

btw that benn fight was a proper bs stoppage, hate that rul!

 

Yea would have been Hagler-Hearns 2 if it went on but Benn's shorter punches would have finnished it sooner or later

 

i think so too, benn was a monster back then against anyone who didn't have great fundamentals.

just a shame seeing it end on a bad kd.

 

i don't know if there's footage of it but I'm sure he punched him through the ropes

Robinson was knocked down through the ropes in the eighth, being saved by the bell at the count of nine, after taking a right to the head and a left to the body. Referee Hennessey gave LaMotta five rounds including the last four. He gave Robinson four and called one even. Two other judges gave the same scores. The much heavier LaMotta charged Robinson at every opportunity with bull-like rushes. Robinson tried to outbox his shorter opponent but had a lot of trouble keeping him at bay.

 

Yes,it would take Hearns' Motor City Cobra to beat LaMotta. The Hitman would n't make much headway in this one.

 

I really think LaMotta, though a good fighter, is living off ONE good performance against a great fighter in these head to heads. Hearns is much closer to Sugar Ray Robinson than La Motta is in terms of all around skill and speed and power, just not "chin". He has 1st round knock outs at CRUISER WEIGHT and IRAN BARKLEY WAS A BIG PUNCHER.

Hearns embarasses him, Valentines Day Massacre all over again.

 

I really believe a prime Hearns would put Lamotta on his azz. That's saying something.

 

Um. **** that. LaMotta beat more than just Robinson. Go look his resume up on CBZ or something.

 

LaMotta defeated Sugar Ray Robinson - A win over the GOAT.
LaMotta defeated Marcel Cerdan - A win over a legit ATG.
LaMotta defeated Al McCoy - A win over a very good fighter.
LaMotta defeated Laurent Dauthuille - A win over a very good fighter, and was also the 1950 FOTY.
LaMotta defeated Joey DeJohn - A win over a legit contender.
LaMotta defeated Holman Williams - A win over a legit ATG.

As you can clearly see, LaMotta is not simply living off of the Sugar Ray Robinson win. And even if he was, that's not something to be sniffed at.
Robinson is universally considered to be the greatest of all time. The fact that LaMotta beat him certainly says something about the Bronx Bull!

 

Hearns did not hit harder than Bob Satterfield and LaMotta beat a lot of good fighters who had a stature of 5'11-6'1 so fighting a Thomas Hearns would not be a completely new experience for him. Jose Basora, California Jackie Wilson and George Costner among others were terrific contenders that he beat.

Now I'm not saying any of these fighters compare to Thomas Hearns (though Ray Robinson does), but it shows LaMotta could deal with the type. Can we say the same for Hearns? The closest fighter to LaMotta stylistically that Hearns was able to beat was Juan Roldan, who had neither the chin or even the defensive ability of LaMotta. The wild bull still gave Hearns a lot of trouble.

Hearns also could not hold onto the physically strong LaMotta as he did here in order to survive:

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Robinson described the LaMotta he fought in 1950 as much slower than in their previous bouts. Here you can see a prime LaMotta terrorizing Tommy Bell with a relentless attack:

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