Jalolov vs Franklin (what if)

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  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    No, lol. What you're saying I'm saying is not what I'm actually saying. You're implying that I'm saying "you should never voice disagreement with anybody because who cares?", which would obviously be a ridiculous position. You're trying to equate vocalizing disagreement with being a fan of an athlete. The former requires submission to ideas while the latter only requires ignoring an athlete's opinions to enjoy their athletic achievement.
     
  2. joebojoejoeson

    joebojoejoeson Member banned Full Member

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    Um Tyson Fury has accomplished what? He ran from a old Wladimir Klistchko while landing 86 punches and then he had 3 sloppy fights with unskilled Deontay Wilder. So Tyson Fury is what I said, a sexist, homophobic male who actually kisses males on the mouth by the way. Who is loud and annoying but since he is European he gets away with it. If Deontay Wilder of Anthony Joshua said stuff that Fury says you would never hear the last of it.
     
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  3. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Your premise is ridiculous. Are you seriously expecting the forum to believe that you don't like any fighters who are less accomplished than Fury?

    Note, your response to my claim was that Tyson Fury should be enjoyed for what he does in the ring, not his opinions outside of the ring, was to claim that Tyson Fury had no athletic accomplishments inside the ring. A ridiculous premise.
     
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  4. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    lol we have debate bro here who strawmans immediately then wants to talk about Tyson Fury’s athletic accomplishments outside of the ring? Lol wat
     
  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I didn't strawman, if you can read, you'll realize that he strawmanned and I pointed this out. I can't even make sense of the rest of your statement. I hope to God for your sake that you do not speak English natively.
     
  6. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Brilliant matchup for him. Easy TKO for Jalolov and it would catapult him to the TOP20.

    I'm sure Jalolov gonna have 3 fights in 2023. Kash Ali, Wach and Franklin lmao.
     
  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree. I think fighters can build hype and coast on it making good money without needing to step up to a proper challenge. How about we hype nobody until they prove themselves? Then we can finally start seeing decent matchmaking.
     
  8. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    “Are you seriously expecting the forum to believe that you don't like any fighters who are less accomplished than Fury?”

    This part is the strawman you dummy, he never made this claim. You’re an f-tier debate bro try-hard. Of course you can’t make sense of my statement, you obviously don’t understand English (or thinking in general). Come and debate me you dummy lol
     
  9. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    His premise, in response to my premise that Fury should be enjoyed for his athletic achievements rather than his personality, was to say, and I quote: "Um Tyson Fury has accomplished what? He ran from a old Wladimir Klistchko while landing 86 punches and then he had 3 sloppy fights with unskilled Deontay Wilder."

    Therefore, it follows logically that he is claiming as a manner of retort that Fury has no athletic achievement, and therefore nobody should enjoy him for his athletic achievement. I pointed out that this logic is hypocritical. He obviously does in-fact enjoy boxers less achieved than Fury, as was obvious at the time with a quick skim of his posts. If you follow his logic to a natural conclusion, it also becomes obviously *ridiculous. There would be very few boxers anybody could be a fan of on the basis of their achievements if Fury didn't qualify.

    So, no, any literate person with a clear mind can see that I did not strawman. Unlike you, I explained my logic step by step and didn't rely on playground insults. "Tryhard", "dummy". I will pray for you to get a wife and grow out of hurling playground insults in a debate about sport enthusiasm over the internet.