Jalolov vs Luis Ortiz

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Depends what axis you're looking at.

    Highly authoritarian? Check.
    Socialist? Check.

    The biggest difference is in cultural outlook, but they have too much in common to consider truly opposite.
     
  2. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nazi's were and are not the least bit socialist.
     
  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilders ducked them his entire career, why stop now?
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    They were called the National Socialist German Workers' Party. I'd imagine they were, at least a bit.
     
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  5. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    North Korea is called the Democratic Peoples Republic. See how that works?
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Nazis actually started out being socialist leaning and then changed over. See how that works?
     
  7. fencik45

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    they certainly weren't by the time Hitler joined. I also defy one of you guys to go to a Nazi gathering and call them socialists and see how it works out.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    Hitler was already one of the most important people there when it was a left party. Can't rewrite history.
     
  9. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury has always faced feather fists too, when given the opportunity.
     
  10. fencik45

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    they weren't a leftist party, you righties are trying to rewrite history. Hitlers Nazi's favored big business, a righty concept. Hitler punished everyone for not being the correct religion, a righty concept.
     
  11. BubblesUK

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    Typically yes - and the heavy punchers he's fought have been either way past prime (Wlad), technically limited (Wilder, Ngannou) or both (Whyte).

    There's a good reason he went after Wilder instead of Joshua - both hit hard, but Joshua was closer to prime and technically far better.
     
  12. fencik45

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    The punchers he has faced also held titles or a huge payday, otherwise he'd have never faced them.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Read the Wikipedia entry. I'm here for the boxing, pal.
     
  14. NullaLexInk

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    Not only that, it's a dude who was fighting at 168/175 the year before last. And also started his career at 130. No footage, photos or real discussion of it as far as I can tell. I'm still not a hundred percent sure it was an actual boxing match. All this is making me think they got into a fight at a parking lot and someone decided to count it because hey, they are both boxers at least :lol:
     
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  15. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    I think that's based on China's model of 'democratic centralism' in which a politburo elects the paramount leadership.

    In Australia there's a limited preselection mechanism for candidates, but most the time it's just internal party powerbrokers pushing their factionally aligned people up front, for the electorate to choose someone based on who they allow to run.