Jalolov vs Luis Ortiz

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  1. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said they didn't want another soviet bloc heavy dominating, and others took it father. as for wikipedia, great source. i can go change it to say mickey mouse and martians started the party. I'm all for dropping the politics though, ever side is evil, just to what degree.
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Only in the beginning.
    That´s like saying ANTIFA is at least a bit anti-fascist. They clearly are fascist just maybe without the nationalism. Altho their creed is multiculturalism.
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought this was a boxing forum not an overly political Facebook comments section...
     
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  4. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know why ******s keep saying this. They had socialized health care before the NHS was even a thing.
     
  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder's career seems to hinge on defeating that old man. Similarly, Fury's success appears to be heavily tied to victories over Wilder. This illustrates how boxing can elevate individuals perceived as less credible into superstars.
     
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  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Up to a point yes...

    There's also a phenomenon that occurs where a fighter becomes special by assumption and their opponents become more capable than they'd proven because of confirmation bias.

    So Ortiz became a boogeyman that nobody wanted to fight because if he was a bum, it would hurt Wilder's reputation that he struggled with a 38+ year old past prime Ortiz...
    Likewise, Fury's fans have long since decided he's special for stinking out the joint to win clearly but also unsatisfactorily against Wlad - but to still be great since returning, Wilder needs to have been real.


    You see the same thing starting to happen with fighters who haven't beaten anybody decent whatsoever...
    Jalolov for example is seen by many as an automatic champion of the future, despite not having beaten a top-200 sort of fighter. You can bet the moment he beats his first gatekeeper, that guy will suddenly become hyped to help bulk out the assumption Jalolov is a future champ - then if he steps up to contenders and can't hack it, you'll see all sorts of excuses to avoid admitting he'd been overhyped.

    There's lots of nonsense when it comes to people getting emotionally invested in backing the next top fighter...
     
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  7. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    He's 29 and could be a double SHW gold medialist. Ortiz is the better fight, but perhaps not the right fit
    for early 24. Saudi's can showcase him, as a Muslim heavyweight, future years headliner.

    I think he's just focussing on Paris at the moment and after that his pro career.

    This recent-ish fight below is interesting. Jalaov has an am. win over Huni and Teremoana would probably like
    a rematch in the pro's at some stage.

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  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    every single dicumentary i've watched (which is into double digits) says they were right wing. You guys just can't accept it. Like i've said before, go top a nazi meeting and call them liberals. Just pay your life insurance first.
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz is too old for this
     
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  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    No way at 65 can he beat Jalolov.
     
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  11. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize the actual founder of Fascism, Mussolini was a major player in the Italian socialist movement before founding his fascist party? Try not to be a clown all your life.
     
  12. moydjayweather

    moydjayweather Member Full Member

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    How do you pronounce Jalolov?