James Bonecrusher Smith v Jack Dempsey

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If Dempsey gets into the position he got into with Firpo, he does not beat the count. Say what you will about Bonecrusher's science, Firpo's flailing makes him look like Benny Leonard.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Firpo kept getting up and trying to ko Dempsey right to the end, we've never seen Smith have the same attitude he was a good on top fighter but when hurt he closed up shop ala Tyson.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Firpo wasn't looking at Tyson across the ring in that fight. He was looking at a guy who wasn't staying on form and seemed to think the fight was in the bag. Firpo isn't making it out of the first round against Tyson.
     
  4. he grant

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    Dempsey should outpoint him but would have to be careful not to punch himself out or to go kamikaze if hit and hurt like he did v.s. Firpo .. Bonecrusher was a big puncher , took a terrific shot for most of his career and had stamina ..
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    My feelings also.

    Jack should win if he doesnt go crazy.
     
  6. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm looking for the trick or twist in this but there isn't one. Dempsey wins this.
     
  7. rusak

    rusak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dempsey was, by modern standards, a smallish cruiserweight with very little boxing ability. He had no jab, couldn't cut off the ring, left himself open for counters coming in. He was very predictable and had no plan B. I think numerous light heavyweights and super middleweights today and in previous eras would beat him or give him hell. Smith was much bigger and at least knew the rudimentary basics of boxing.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why didn't they then?
    Smith was a one dimensional reluctant bomber who lost his appetite for the fray when put under pressuure.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yawn!
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Possibly worst post I ever read
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I am not a Jack Dempsey fan, but I think he blasts Smith out with a mid round KO. Smith was slow of hand and foot, and had leaky defense. I think Dempsey would use him as a big punching bag, weaving in and underneath Smiths haymakers and ripping crushing left hooks into Smith's head. Dempsey was a great finisher, and would get the normally durable Smith out of there.
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Smith's blackness would beat Dempsey.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good post and good thinking outside the emotional box Suzie :good
     
  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Another consideration would be their respective ages when active, as Dempsey by age of 31 had lost the title wheras Bonecrusher did not even turn pro until age 28.

    I think Bonecrusher vs Dempsey at the same age of 31, would be a interesting matchup, and not a forgone conclusion regarding Dempsey winning.

    Ah well another fantasy matchup to discuss over a few glasses of 'falling down water'.
     
  15. heavy_handss

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    :yep i pick tokyo douglas but nice pick