James Braddock (of the Baer fight) Vs Tokyo Mike Tyson?

Yes but the Handspeed and power was still there as well as the chin before he gassed. So I think Braddock still gets hit hard somewhere in the first 5 rounds during Tyson's early charge, gets hurt and Tyson follows up and finishes him like he did vs Bruno where he was also badly prepared.

Braddock doesn't have Douglas size, sharpness and style where he could use Tyson's head as a double end bag.

Tokyo Tyson still beats almost everyone He can Beat to the punch.

 

No but Braddock had a chin like an anvil.

One punch is not going to turn the fight, even if it is from somebody like Ernie Shavers.

 

So did pinklon Thomas who only went down once in his career vs Tyson and that was all started by one punch that opened him up to a combination after he had been winning the past 3 rounds before the 6th
One punch stiffens the legs and dulls the reflexes leading to a combination and then the finish

 

Braddock was far too skinny to take Mike`s shots but his chin was always tucked in and his head was off the centre line as he walked in, that would help him, Tyson was better v Buster than Baer was v Braddock though, more powerful and faster, he was also more aggressive.

 

No you don't. I bet you've seen the fight more recently than he has.

 

Braddock Baer was fought at a much slower pace than Douglas-Tyson, James didn`t have Buster`s movement, and Buster threw more jabs, in fact Braddock wasn`t throwing that many punches vs Baer at least not as many as Buster threw in Tokyo.

 

We are talking about the Tyson of the Douglas fight, not the Tyson of the Thomas fight.

You don't land a punch like that by lazily waiting for your opponent to make a mistake.

I honestly think that version of Thomas would have beaten Tokyo Tyson!

 

We are talking about the Tyson of the Douglas fight, not the Tyson of the Thomas fight.

You don't land a punch like that by lazily waiting for your opponent to make a mistake.

I honestly think that version of Thomas would have beaten Tokyo Tyson!

 

What the hell has him being skinny got to do with anything?

It is down to how good his chin was!

There I would have to disagree.

Baer basically fought his normal fight vs Bradock until he broke his hand.

Tyson just didn't seem interested against Douglas!

 

Tyson was more aggressive than Baer was and he wasn`t putting any pressure on Braddock, I don`t think Braddock`s thin legs could absorb Tyson`s power and his biceps were too thin to hurt Tyson with any punches to keep him off Buster had more power, except for Braddocks stinging jab that would get Mike`s attention and land here and there but Braddock didn`t throw as many jabs in his fight with Baer as Buster did in `90.

 

A fighters durability is not measured by the thickness of their legs.

A fighters power is not measured by the thickness of their biceps.

If you think these things to be true, then you should perhaps follow competitive body building instead.

 

Tyson`s arms weren`t bigger when he started body building in the 90`s, they were more defined, a prime Tyson`s arms weren`t as defined so weren`t as stiff, so he punched harder in the 80`s, Braddock`s arms looked soft and puny, he couldn`t hurt Mike, his punches were too slow and predictable.

 

A fighter who can hit like a high speed train, can look like anything physically.

A fighter who can take a punch like a butchers block, can look like anything physically.

Don't try to relate these things to a fighters appearance, or physical proportions, because you will fail!

 

Plus, Braddock didn't have the size attributes like reach and weight nor did Braddock ever exhibit the kind of boxing ability that Douglas exhibited in Tokyo. Marching forward with your chin halfway exposed and banking on your durability does not a victory over Tyson make. Douglas was going out of his way not to be hit and only mixed it up as a necessity. He didn't just plod into the minefield.