James degale and george groves. Who needs who more?

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  1. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If degale is to win the european title in 10 days, which i think he will, Who would need/benifit from a rematch more him or groves?
     
  2. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    As far as im concerned Groves has beaten him once. If he beats him again where does that leave big mouth?
     
  3. silly_illy

    silly_illy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not the fans!

    james degale = fraudley harrison mark 2
     
  4. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    the european does mean much more than the british. degale needs groves more.
     
  5. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    It used to.
     
  6. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    fair play to degale his opponent is not a step backwards. got to give him credit for that.
     
  7. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I still think its about the same neither needs the other but they will meet again and from a Degale perspective its imperative that he wins next time they do meet.
     
  8. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    He's not a step forward. Piotr's got a pretty padded record with a whole bunch of journey men on it. around 30% KO ratio against that sort of opposition...

    He's as cherry picked as DeGale's previous opponents, other than having a shiny trinket on the line.
     
  9. joegrundy

    joegrundy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Groves is the man with 2 wins so shouldn't worry about it
     
  10. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    you can be critical of degale but you cant accuse him of cherry picking. he has faced good opposition and the poll is decent for a comback from a loss and holds a title that moves him forward.
     
  11. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Rob, really? His opposition has been pretty normal for a prospect. He's also faced the exact same sort of fighter until he faced, and lost to, Groves. It's cherry-picked.

    The belt is meaningless here since Piotr hasn't done anything to justify having it. Didn't Magee hold it before?

    I have no issue with him fighting the Pole, but let's not pretend it's something it isn't.
     
  12. efc85

    efc85 non entity Full Member

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    Groves doesnt need degale at all. Groves 2-0 degale
     
  13. Smoggy7188

    Smoggy7188 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DeGale needs Groves alot more. DeGale cant get through a single interview it seems without being asked about a rematch. Neither of them will be bonified world champions for a few years, they will just get an interim belt or maybe less. DeGale saying he will be a world champion next summer is a joke, much like his trainer.
     
  14. Jonsey

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    you let your personal feelings sway your judgment to much. looking through his record it is impressive for 12 fights when you compare it to others.
     
  15. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    ItÂ’s alright, nothing special. Until the step-up against Smith, it was unremarkable. My feelings have nothing to do with it. I thought DeGale was overrated before he proved himself to be a complete bellend.