James DeGale put Gennady Golovkin to shame

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Dec 28, 2016.


  1. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Lara, CEJ, Froch, Ward, Degale, Canelo, Ramirez, Chavez Jr

    Add Sergio Mora he thought GGG was easy work and would have fought him for free
     
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  2. Flamazide

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    Already mentioned bro
     
  3. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I don't think you know what turning something down means. Nor a legitimate challenge since you mentioned Mora and think that he would actually fight him for free. The only reason I ever bother responding to you is because I worry that someone may believe you at some point.
     
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Took short money to fight lower tier opponents.. Smh. He should be doing that against fighters who will help his stock.

    Ggg needs to take a business class.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Ward had an offer at 168. Ggg refused
    Canelo offered a fight at 155. Ggg refused
    Lara offered to fight him at 160. Ggg ignored
    Trout offered to fight at 160. Ggg ignored
    147 lber asked to fight Ggg at 160.
    Canelo had contract sent to fight at 160 for 10 mil+ppv. Ggg refused.
    Canelo offered 15 mil for a fight at 160. Ggg refused.
    DeGale offered to go down in weight to fight Ggg. Ggg ignored.
     
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  6. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please stop mentioning CEJ. Hes now fighting for the IBO "world title" lol
     
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  7. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I'm not a GGG hater. He just doesn't deserve any praise, at least imo for taking part in a modern day bum of the month club. He could've made a fight with Ward if he would've been willing like Kovalev, and concede conditions and money for a chance to prove just how good he really is. Same with Froch & Kessler if GGG would have went up to 168, if he's so awesome like his fans claim going up 8 pounds should be no thing. Hell he supposedly regularly spars HW's and does very well, so why couldn't he not cut for a fight at 168 and back up his fans boasts? I think it's because he knows he's not as good as everyone likes to claim, and would have got exposed by all 3. If he wants to be thought of in the same lofty class of great Russian fighters and be disputed by virtually no one like Lomachenko & Kovalev then he needs to do what needs to be done to prove himself like they have.

    I'm not a GGG hater, he just hasn't done anything to earn his skeptics praise.
     
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  8. Flamazide

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    Golovkin wanted Canelo's belt. Declining to fight for the MW title at something other than the MW limit makes perfect sense. Canelo is the one being silly there.
    Lara never sent an offer.
    Trout never sent an offer. Even if they did and he accepted people would just give him **** for taking that fight.
    Brook DID send an offer. Brook also has fought at 154 before, but that doesn't fit with the claim you want to make so it doesn't matter.
    Canelo and Golovkin are kind of different anyway. That's the biggest fight Golovkin can get and he wants a ppv split. Other pundits, fighters, and posters have already said that the offers that Canelo sent are just bad anyway. It makes more business sense for this fight in particular for Golovkin to get the best deal possible. Also Golovkin just hasn't said yes (yet) that isnt the same thing as refusing and he can't actually accept right now anyway since he is in the middle of a fight and will probably take another one in the interim.
    DeGale has said before that he doesn't want to fight Golovkin. Now he has changed his tune, but he also never made an offer. He can't make an offer right now anyway since he is also in the middle of a fight. This isn't a real challenge yet. You don't make a fight on Twitter. When they do this it is all just talk. Same way Barrera and Pascal are going at it on Twitter right now, at the moment it is just talk until they actually have a contract.

    Oh also, Golovkin tried to make the Ward fight for about 3 years. Ward also can't even make 168 anymore according to him so there is the issue of which weight they would fight at. Then you have Ward's "I will make no concessions for this fight!" comment when he was going to be the B-side at the time. You also have the fact that Golovkin was also in the middle of a fight which messes up negotiations and the fact the offer itself was too vague to even be seriously considered and Golovkin and his time said something to the effect of "If you want the fight let us know" and Ward is the one that never said anything afterwards.
     
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  9. Kevin Willis

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    Now this pack of lying little kunts are hitching their collective wagon to DeGale.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    GGG is a middleweight weighs 160 Why should he have to take on fighters 10-15 pounds heavier than him to "PROVE" himself ?? You people try to diss GGG yet applaud a blatant coward like Canelo who claims to be lineal Middleweight champ but says he's not a 160 fighter ?? ROFL
    When Gennady has all the 160 belts he;'ll move up & clean out 168
     
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  11. drenlou

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    He's hiding his ability to be outboxed, that's why he won't entertain such fights against guys who can stick and move. He faces plodders and guys who will stay right in front of him which is why he looks like a monster.
     
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  12. drenlou

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    Better yet tell us any fighter from 154 to 168 that he's pursued after being called on through multiple media outlets? He said Lara brought no money yet went and fought Willie Monroe Jr, the biggest cash cow in boxing... kick rocks C.J.
     
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  13. rorschach51

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    He moves up to take a fight for the same reason Brook did against him, the chance to become a legend. He fights Ward for Froch for peanuts and wins, he can call a hell of a lot more shots in a huge money fight against The Red Head.

    I can't stand the Red Head.
     
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  14. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Ward.
     
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bull Feces Ward could never make 168