James J Corbett Peter Courtney 1894

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  1. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the lone version that shows the bout at the proper projection speed. Thanks for posting!
     
  2. LittleRed

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    Corbett literally laughing at him
     
  3. Seamus

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    Courtney would be a terror today.

    Corbett looks good.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Six one minute rounds were filmed. I think much of the film has been lost. Courtney was badly out classed.

    There are some other films.

    The Leonard vs. Cushing fight was filmed in 1894. Back in the day, this was a rare film. With the internet, its not. See the below link at the 2:03 mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nVUXZGW_XQ

    One of the more interesting one was Sandow, the strong man of the times. I think he'd whip Courtney too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRmzoSnQWGk
     
  5. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Courtney was a "truck driver"in New Jersey, probably one of the toughest drivers of 'em all. Maher nearly killed him by accident but then they had one hell of a drinking session! The Corbett stuff was for film, three sided ring, James trying to carry Courtney for the proceeds. Interesting for all that.
     
  6. he grant

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    Corbett looks pretty ridiculous himself, turning his head from punches, stiff armed, round house punches ... He was very fast though.
     
  7. Jpreisser

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    Corbett looks as if he possesses great ability here.
     
  8. apollack

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    I discuss this bout in detail in In the Ring With James J. Corbett.
     
  9. Seamus

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    He is performing like any guy would perform who is several levels above his opponent. He's not worrying about crafty counters or subtly laid shots. He is toying with the guy, knowing full well he won't get touched, laughing, laying his chin out, countering only when needed to keep Peter in check. He looks pretty goddamned good.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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  11. mcvey

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    Exactly an interesting curio but not a real fight."Badly outclassed".:patsch
    Thanks to Suzie for posting.:good
     
  12. he grant

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    I completely disagree .. He does not duck, he does not hold his hands up, he throws stiff armed round house punches, he turns his head away from an opponent instead of slipping a punch .. you can see many of the same things thirty four years later in his sparring film w Tunney .. I have no doubt that Corbett was a physical marvel, extremely fast of hand and foot , superbly conditioned ( thru the Sullivan bout ) and very bright but he was a transitional fighter and you see far more straight punching ten years later from the Joe Gans and the Jack Johnsons of the ring ..
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Watch Corbett sparring with Kid McCoy. The film is up close and clear. Corbett was crazy good with feints, and had cat quick reflexes with his head, arms, and legs.

    Peter Courtney was billed as the Champion of New Jersey. Corbett is toying with him for the camera. I read he knocked Courtney out on queue, but its not shown in this round.
     
  14. mcvey

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    On queue? It gets worse:patsch:lol:

    Courtney's record

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    Charley Strong
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    New York, New York, USA L TKO 1 6
    Courtney died the next year of tuberculosis.
    1894-10-27
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    Peter Maher
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    Nonpareil A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA L TKO 2
    1894-10-06
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    Peter Maher
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    Germania Theater, Hoboken, New Jersey, USA L PTS 3 3



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