James J Corbett vs Carl Froch

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KeedCubano, May 17, 2020.


Who Wins?

  1. Froch

    15 vote(s)
    57.7%

  2. Corbett

    11 vote(s)
    42.3%
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  1. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    Was speaking to a friend about Corbett and how I overrated he was before this came up, and I thought it would have some lovely debates.

    What say you?
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Juicy match up. Really invigorates the imagination. Add poll?
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: wtf imagine.

    It's a question about whether or not boxing has evolved. But there's nothing here about rules. When you're arguing evolution you need to know: skin gloves? Forty round fight? 4 oz horsehair? 2020 pillows? 2020 referee? 1890 butcher? Are they fighting in a modern ring in an air-conditioned building or in a barn where three ropes are strung by one of the barn walls which forms the fourth rope? On a barge? Police lookouts or no police lookouts?

    This one's quite well pitched though. Presumably people know and understand that Corbett would beat Masayuki Kuroda even under modern rules. So there's a tipping point even for fierce modernists.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Are you dissing manly Masayuki?

    And yes, rule-set specifics are Paramount for these matches. Got some @KeedCubano?
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Corbett
     
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  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Corbett to me, even though he's usually overrated he was very talented fighter with some nice wins on his resume.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am in the camp that sees Corbett as being over rated, but I still have to favor him here.

    Froch would probably need a knockout to win, and he probably isn't quite enough of a finisher to put Corbett away.
     
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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Corbett
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Froch had a great chin and a very good right hand ,but he was pretty average as regards skills, and not that quick.
    Corbett would be the bigger man here and the more skilled,he takes a clear decision .
     
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  10. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    1950 type rules, with the equipment of that time. Hope that helps.
     
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  11. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Other than great footwork, I don't really see Corbett as being exceptionally skilled. Of the (admittedly) limited footage I have seen, I'm not overly impressed!

    I'm thinking that Froch would catch him sooner or later for a stoppage win.
     
    Bukkake, May 18, 2020
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  12. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem is that Corbett wasn't easy to stop. He wasn't stopped until he faced Fitzsimmons (one of the best punchers ever) and he lasted 14 rounds with him. He got stopped after that but never quickly and he was past his prime after Fitz loss.
     
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  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    To be fair he didnt exactly have lots of fights did he.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ruleset will determine the degree of the outcome but not the outcome. I think Froch catches him within 6, likely much sooner than that. Corbett has no advantages here.
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Nobody ever came close to catching Corbett in 6!
     
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