James J Jeffries vs Anthony Joshua

This pre=supposes that Joshua would need to go 20 and 25rounds with men whom he outweighed by up to 70 lbs.

 

Again your comments are false from their start. Jeffries was rated as an ATG fighter. He remains an ATG fighter. The only question is where he should be rated. That is an unanswerable question unless you use expert testimony from his time. There is no decent film footage to draw a competent conclusion on one own.

 

Very possible. How does Joshua catch a smaller ATG fighter in a huge ring? How does a musclebound hwt who has trouble fighting 12 rounds last 20-25?

 

He is an ATG because he beat 3 cruisers two of whom were coming out of retirement?
There is no decent film footage of him to draw a competent conclusion , and yet you have?
Based on the testimony of men whom had only seen Sullivan,Fitz, Corbett, and Sharkey?

 

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Tom Sharkey was a face first brawler 183lbs and 5'8" Fitz wrecked him twice,yet he went 20 and 25rds with Jeffries ,I don't think he goes past 8 with Joshua.

 

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Using this logic, the best Joshua fought was a 41-year-old man who had not been in the ring for 1.5 years. The 41-year-old floored him, and if not for spitting out his mouthpiece for a much-needed break which seemed to last 10-15 seconds ( given by the referee ) might have been TKO'd or been hurt again in the same round leading to a stoppage. Had Wlad been a few years younger, he wins this fight.

Joshua second best opponent was Whyte, who rocked him. Again, when hurt Joshua rule bends.

I think his punch resistance is average ( neither good or bad ), and Joshua has stamina related issues in the later rounds.

At present, I think Joshua has shown enough to beat past champions below 210 pounds that could not punch hard enough in Jack Johnson, Jack Sharkey, Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcott...those types, but how would he do vs a man who's not going to wilt, and can pressure him while hurt or take advantage of him while he's waiting for a second wind?

I'd lean toward Jeffries.

PS: Corbett at 33, and Fitz being proven great older fighter at 36 were not past their primes.

 

Are you saying Joshua is in his 8th pro fight, and hurt his shoulder in round two in the second one?

Joshua would still be an amateur, and in case your forgot he was KO'd there, and floored a few times.

More fair and balanced observation from the " King " of double standards at ESB

 

Jeffries is an ATG fighter. My conclusions are based upon history. Those that watched him live from ringside, experts, rated him very highly. Joshua is not an ATG fighter and that conclusion is self evident. Joshua in fact is so far removed from AT greatness it's laughable.

 

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Your comments drip of ineptitude.

You have no idea what it took to be a fighter circa 1900. It was typical to fight in huge rings with fast canvas thus making a smaller fighter much harder to find. Distances could be very long which would make it practically impossible for a musclebound Joshua to last the distance. Put Joshua in the ring vs Jeffries under the arc lights that were employed to film his bout with Sharkey and in turn fry the combatants in the ring. Do you think a nothing like Joshua could last 10 rounds under those conditions let alone 20-25? Of course not. Further Joshua in 1900 would not have the use of steroids so he then becomes much less conditioned than he is today. You like many on here are quick to tout fighters who have never proved themselves as great fighters. Newbie thought process. Watch how a few body blows crippled Kovalov a few days ago. This was the same fighter most on here were claiming an ATG who would beat Marciano and Dempsey. Problem is you must PROVE via exhibited ATG abilities to be called an ATG fighter. Newbies like yourself are quick to jump to very false conclusions. Kovalev would not last three rounds with either Dempsey or Marciano. Why? Kovalev possesses ordinary intrinsic abilities as a fighter. ATG fighters have exhibited intrinsic abilities that far outpace the ordinary.