James Jeffries vs Deontay Wilder

Fighters back then used exhibitions to stay active between fights.

Just because a fighter had not had an official bout in two years, did not mean that they had been inactive for two years.

Furthermore there have been recent examples of fighters being inactive for long periods, and then picking up where they left off.

Vitally Klitschko and Tyson Fury being two obvious examples.

 

You are basing this on what exactly?

 

A big issue is that obviously fighters are going to be more active if theiir ability to get a title shot depends on it because of them needing to be active to be ranked, and needing to be ranked to get a shot.

Fighters are managed to get title shots, you can't just impose a different ranking system onto an era that didn't have that system.

 

Have you seen the way fighters fought back in those days?, Jeffries was getting touched by punches all night, crossing his feet, hands down, lunging with shots, if fighters with more talent and skill (along with size, strenght) can be put down by Wilder, he can land the punch on Jeffries for sure and if he can hurt guys that are so much bigger than him, a guy closer to his size would get real damage. Is not that hard to see honestly, boxing might be one of the few sports that hasn't changed much in terms of tactics in the last decades but it's way more advanced than it was in the 1900's.

 

Which fights of Jeffries have you watched?

 

Losing to Fury isn't a crowning achievement to be proud of on a résumé. In fact, the only reason you clamour on about Wilder fighting Fury is because the rest of Wilder's résumé is so horrendous.

 

Plus outside his fights with Wilder, Fury is ranked entirely based off of fights from over 3 years before his first fight with Wilder, that being his fight with Wlad all the way back in 2015 and earlier fights like Hammer, Cunningham and Chisora

Otherwise since his comeback, Fury has fought very weak opponents and mostly looked crap doing it.

If Corbett and Fitzsimmons and struggled with some third raters 6 months before fighting Jeffries, would that really make them more credible opponents than they were when they fought him?

 

Wilder chins him

 

Joe Louis had 98 exhibitions during the war years ,do you think he was ready to fight Charles when he did,or do you think he looked better later with a couple of real fights under his belt?
Louis never regained his former reflexes,speed ,legs ,or all of his power.
ps Louis was 3 years younger than Fitz ,39 in the early 1900's was old for a fighter.
Recent examples are not on an equal playing field with the old timers, I guess most every objective observers would agree with that.

 

He was clean for that fight. My point is his ranking, whomever he beat was aided by PED's, meaning he's part fraud.

 

You don't think that in general there has been a significant improvement in the level of competition since the early 1900's?

 

All in all Jeffries was much more impressive fighter than the chicken legged Wilder. Jeffries looked like a full muscular
bodybuilder ( with incredible big thighs and calves) compared to the balance problematic Wilder.
Of course Jeffries had better chin considering Jack Johnson could destroy only a tired version James..
Otherwise Wilder looks very vulnerable (Sconiers,Fury and Romanov (amateur fight) fights.
Jeffries was a great athlete he was a very fast and explosive sprinter but in Wliders' case i can see nothing
remarkable athletic talent.
Jeffries' speed is underrated maybe the biased Wilder fans don't know his first Fitzsimmons fight when
James moved like a quick big cat but Wilder never beat a fast,decent opponent. Unfortunately Wilder can move
like an chicken legged statue.
And not to mention Jeffries was a far better infighter than Wilder.

Who can choice Jeffries this isn't a biased and nostalgic decision.

 

Double

So let's use Box Rec rankings, if we can to achieve middle ground. This means Wilder did beat one person ranked at Box Rec in the top ten in Ortiz who is 10th, however he was old as dirt off his PED's.

The other Wilder opponents are currently ranked at Box Rec are:

Molina #88
[url]Breazeale[/url] #22
Washington #19 ( Shocked )
Arreola #60
[url]Szpilka[/url] # 29
[url]Duhaupas[/url] #43

That's it.

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Mendoza: No no, Some of these fights where not five years ago. My point which you cringe away from is Joshua fought much better competition, hence the people he has beaten at currently ranked or highly ranked. Wilder fought pretenders who ranked much lower and fell l further in the rankings as other beat them. Its a fact and very telling one. Admit it.

Wilder opponents are currently ranked at Box Rec are:

Molina #88
[url]Breazeale[/url] #22
Washington #19 ( Shocked )
Arreola #60
[url]Szpilka[/url] # 29
[url]Duhaupas[/url] #43

^^^ Yes, these guys got title shots. One or two, okay. Six opponents like this? Way too many. An embarrassment to heavyweight boxing. I'm sure you'll pick Wilder to beat Jack Dempsey too.