James Jeffries vs Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by 70sFan865, Jun 15, 2020.


Who would have won?

  1. James J. Jeffries

    23 vote(s)
    38.3%

  2. Deontay Wilder

    37 vote(s)
    61.7%
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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who did Jeffries fight in his 43rd pro fight? Who did Jeffries knock out when he was 34?
     
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    Dubblechin, Jun 17, 2020
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  2. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wasn't really referring to Jeff's fight with Choynski, only his belief (that he repeated several times in his life) that Choynski was the hardest puncher he faced. I'm pretty confident in saying Wilder hits harder than Choynski.
     
    Berlenbach, Jun 17, 2020
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Do you not think his opinion was coloured by the fact he was so inexperienced when he fought Choynski?
     
    BitPlayerVesti, Jun 17, 2020
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  4. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Probably the first time I've ever said this about Wilder, but I think he outboxes him and Stops him in the 6th.
     
    TipNom, Jun 17, 2020
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  5. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Possibly, though quite a few guys from that era stated that Choynski could hit hard (like Johnson) so it's not an outrageous choice. If not Choynski, then who would be the hardest puncher Jeff fought? Fitzsimmons? Either way, I don't think fighting them could prepare him for Wilder.
     
    Berlenbach, Jun 17, 2020
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Nope he reiterated it later in life.Choynski smashed his bottom lip through his front teeth and it had to be scissored away.
    Jeffries had 52pounds on the 167lbs Choynski.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Johnson
    Fitzsimmons
    Sharkey
    All said Choynski hit them the hardest.
     
    mcvey, Jun 17, 2020
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Choynski weighed 167lbs when he held Jeffries to a 20 rounds draw.
     
    mcvey, Jun 17, 2020
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  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody, but he still beat much better fighters in much shorter career.
     
    70sFan865, Jun 17, 2020
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't get it, Jeffries as a novice almost beat Choynski who was a great fighter in his prime. He floored him multiple times, didn't he? Who cares that Choynski was small?

    I'd be more impressed with Wilder drawing with Choynski in his 6th fight than winning against no hopers for half of his fight.
     
    70sFan865, Jun 17, 2020
    70sFan865, Jun 17, 2020
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What would your opinion be if Wilder 219lbs, in his 8th fight went 20 rds to a draw with Carl Froch
     
    mcvey, Jun 17, 2020
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  12. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson Fury and David Haye knows more about boxing than yourself, have both been in the ring with Wilder and both label Wilder as the hardest hitter of all time.
     
    CharlesBurley, Jun 17, 2020
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  13. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I just watched the Ruhlin fight, Jeffries throws no combinations at all. He walks forward with a low guard and throws single left hooks. He's constantly open to the right hand
     
    CharlesBurley, Jun 17, 2020
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  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is not Wilder's power that I question, it is the caliber of opposition that he proved it against.
     
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  15. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I take it you got Fury and Wilder muddled? Wilder's proved it against opponents comparable to Shavers and no ones questioning his power.

    Like Ali praising Shavers power you've got Haye and Fury praising Wilder's. Even AJ thought Wilder wouldn't be able to match his KO 7 against Breazeale. Wilder wrecked him in a round.
     
    CharlesBurley, Jun 17, 2020
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