james kirkland

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  1. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    no he isnt, but you are talking about the benn you know now. im talking about the benn that had the same amount of fights. Not the elite nigel who beat mclellan. I see a lot of similarites in their early careers.
     
  2. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How do you know, Kirkland can't box? You have nothing to go on to say he can't. He hasn't had to show much boxing skill lately because he's been knocking his opponets out. I think you are making a quick judgement and you need to wait till Kirkland get's more fight's. Albert was supposed to have the ability to outbox Kirkland, but he cut off the ring and blitzed him. One thing he has shown is the ability to cut off the ring, and not every pressure fighter has that ability.
     
  3. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    look man...come on guys..the guy is great for boxing. We love great skillful boxers, but we all deep down love aggressive lunatics like kirkland!! im going to start the U.K Kirkland appreciation society. I love the ****er!!
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I've seen him in several other fights. He has decent skill, but it leaves a lot to be desired. He's not a polished boxer and he is what he is; an aggressive, powerful, exciting pressure/brawler. He'll win fights based on power and pressure alone, but I don't see him becoming an elite the way Gamboa will (which is what I was responding to when PacDbest said Kirkland is the real deal and Gamboa isn't).
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Kirkland will be a problem for anyone in his weight class. The man basically gets tortured in training camp. Ann Wolfe is straight old school, and gets her fighters ready to do battle. I'm not saying Kirkland will be a future HOF'er, but he'll be one of those fighters that you don't want to face if you don't have to. He's like Mayorga at 147 except more disciplined and technically sound. Ask Andrew Lewis and Vernon Forresrt about how much their technical superiority helped them against Mayorga. Kirkland is in the same mold.
     
  6. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he's not a polished boxer, but he atleast is decent. Mayorga wasn't even a decent boxer, and look what he did to Forrest.
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Yes, he's a guy who'll either knock out his opponents or get outboxed/knocked out himself. They'll be some surprises in Kirkland's career I imagine, where he'll upset a more technically skilled opponent who can't take his shots or effectively deal with his pressure. I'd love to see him and Vernon Forrest go at it.
     
  8. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was more so impressed with him than i was with Gamboa.
     
  10. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    Got to have kirkland on the avatar now..ha ha!!
     
  11. TheGrimReaper

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    this guy is NO JOKE
     
  12. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    I also like Kirkland and his intensity. However if I were Kirkland's manager/trainer I would train him to box 12 rounds. Kirkland wont blow every opponent out in 2 rounds or less, so he must be mentally and physically prepared to box good boxers for the long haul.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I know she has guys holding Kirkland down while others beat the **** out of him.
     
  14. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    What was the thing about the heavybag and the truck?
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm not 100% sure. I gotta watch the telecast again.