James 'Lights Out' Toney is a fighter who conjures up extreme viewpoints when attempting to analytically break down just how good the man is. Honestly speaking, I' am an avid James Toney Fan, as a middleweight in the early to mid 90's, he was one of the fighters who got me interested in the sport of boxing. Even then, i believed the man's skills were unrivalled. For me, he is possibly the most natural fighter i have ever seen. Incredably gifted athletically, blessed with fighting instincts, he is defensive wizard (Even as a 230lbs heavyweight he stands infront of oponents and is STILL very hard to hit flush), he possesses a granite chin, is genuiely two fisted, a supreme ring general who can fight going forward, backwards, to the side, just about anywhere in the ring and anyhow. 'Lights Out' is old school in every sense. Conversely, his total lack of discipline (which ironically also highlights his imense talent and ability), his total disregard for anyone or anything and recent lacklustre displays have somewhat distorted the image and greatness of 'Lights Out'. Now, even as a Toney 'Nuthugger' as some of you label obsessed people on this site would put it and as a boxing fan: I would not even attempt to argue Toney's resume is any where close to what it should be. Instead, i would argue he has a very solid resume with big wins over Michael Nunn (contrary to popular belief this was in reality a close fight before the stoppage) Reggie Johnson (close fight) Mike McCallum (Who Roy Jones fought AFTER Toney had fought him twice), Iran Barkley (scoff as you may he was a HEAVY underdog for this fight), Tim Littles (Very impressive due to the manner in which he disposed of his foe), Vassilily Jirov (one of the best fights i have seen) and a faded but game Evander Holyfield. James Toney is case of a fighter who requires a deeper analysis of just how great he is. These days Boxing fans don't tend to think outside the box and use a fighters resume as a be all and end all as a means to discover how good a fighter was. James 'Lights out' Toney is a great fighter period. And i for one would have ABSOLUTELY no qualms about putting him up there as one of the greats of our era on talent and talent alone. Thanks for reading.
:roll: How many your momma jokes can you listen to before its boring. His trash talk is trash. Back on to the op he may be skilled. Indeed I believe freddie roach recently said that he was the most naturally gifted boxer he ever worked with but you also have to put work ethic into it and here its a fail. If people crab at boxers for not taking the best/hardest fights out there then surely a case must be made for criticising a boxer who does not apply himself properly and to his maximum potential. Toney has had more bad nights than good since the RJJ fight. Where you see a guy who is hard to hit flush standing right in front of a heavyweight I see a guy who was once a middleweight and is now very immobile and unfit for a boxer. Wasted talent.
I have always liked Toney. However since he doesnt seem to care about his conditioning or his success really at Heavyweight I have lost some respect for him. Even though he has blown his chances at making it at Heavyweight he was still a great fighter. If Toney stayed at 168 - 175 lbs for his entire career I think we would be looking at a guy with something like a 50-3-2 record and alot more title wins and defenses under his belt. Toney has definitely been one of the best fighters of the last 15 - 20 years, but he still somewhat tarnished his legacy with eating his way to title fights at 230 pounds and then testing positive for steroids afterwards. A great fighter he was, but after 175 pounds he was simply good and never great.
This is a very good analysis, it is not a secret he wasted a majority of his talent but saying he is not willing to fight the best/take dangerous fights is a little naive. James toney is a 5'9 middleweight who had aspirations of being the heavyweight champion of the world, admittingly he went the wrong way about it in doing so, however you can not say he did seek out the best. Names like Hasim Rahman, Samual Peter, may not shake up the world but they must be put into context......seriously how many fighter 175lbs below would be able to hang with these guys having every physical advantage taken away from them but TALENT.
Again, i can't argue with this analysis. All geniuses have flaws........... I say lets focus on his career instead of speculating on what may have beens...........