James Oyebola shot in head....

I thought he was an unassuming type of giant bloke - .:-( Never a flash merchant.

 

Similar sort of thing happened in my local last night - turned into a ruk with the regulars defending the guvnor's wife against a few 'geezers' who thought they could smoke inside the door cos it was raining ..This smoking thing will take a while to settle down...No one got shot last night - but one bloke got stabbed - and then he was dealt with in the same breath :verysad Glad i went home after two - got the result this evening.

 

I thought something similar was going to happen the other day...our pub has a couple of QPR hooligans who have been involved in all sorts for a long time. One is an alright guy, big knife scars on his face and loud, but okay. His mate is a total ****, proper bully who seems to enjoy intimidating anyone he can and he is about 6ft 6".

Both are in their early 40's and the big one came in with about 4 lads who must have been in their early to mid 20's, all pretty built and the usual loud mouths making couples and old people near by feel nervous.

They sparked up in the pub and were told once to go outside. They said "Oh yeah yeah ****". Two minutes later a different one in the group sparks up again and as the manager goes over to tell him he just nods and carrys on smoking.

I was waiting for it to go off, but it didn't and acting like smug little pricks they eventually stubbed them out and left a pint later.

What is it with some people and looking to be a **** for no reason?

 

he is a head doorman at another club but this is one of his friends party's and he got involved such a bad thing man how on earth could somthing like that happen

 

Unfortunately this is the sort of thing that happens when Governments make stupid laws inhibiting people's personal freedom.

 

People act likes ****s imo because there is this respect thing going on everywhere - even driving a car some people think they have to be given right of way etc cos they look menacing :blood - if you treat them like any other memeber of the community they feel disrespected and their poor little egos are dented.

 

Yeah mate...of course most people shoot other people dead for asking them to smoke outside. You are a good bloke but it is pretty ****ing lame to try and score points for your beef with the smoking ban over the fact that a guy is probably going to die from some little ****s shooting him.

Lets be honest, do you think the three lads went and got a gun and carried it on nights out just in case someone tried to stop their freedom and make them observe the smoking ban?

It is my personal freedom to sniff coke if I want, thus I am sure you would fully understand if I decided to shoot the next bar manager who asked me to leave when I racked up a line on the bar top?

 

You are right and the irony that seems to pass these clowns by is that they enter places being disrespectful.
My mate gets it all the time at the pub he works at in Kensal Green...the Harlesdon boys come down, are rude as ****, don't say please or thankyou and throw the money on the bar top.

On a couple of occasions some twat has said "Get me brandy and coke, one ice cube" and my mate has said "Do you wanna try a please" and the first thing out of their mouth is "Are you ****ing disrespecting me".

And everytime he says the same "No, you are disrespecting me by talking to me like a piece of **** when I have been polite with you, why should I serve someone who cant even be arsed saying please or at least calling me mate instead of ordering me about like some twat"

Half the time the muppet will glare and say "Right PLEASE get me a brandy and coke MATE". As if they have been asked to do the most unreasonable thing in the world.:-(

 

Pretty much every country is adopting it now , it's been in Ireland a few years .

A lot of smokers didn't like it at first(I'm going to assume you're someone in the same position) but now most people(even smokers) are happy with the ban , except when it's pissing rain but they still know it's there for good reasons .

Is it fair that workers have to put up with second hand smoke ? , is it not their freedom to work in a safe enviroment ?

And finally can you really justify what these people did based on them not being able to put a little bit of paper and tobacco in their mouth while inside ?

 

Of course I can't justify shooting someone because they asked you to stop smoking!! Nor would I even attempt to. That is not the point. What I'm saying is that this sort of thing is the thin end of the wedge and once daft laws are made which are ill thought out, you get problems. It happens every time. Let's just hope James pulls through.

 

Well that pub sounds like a really SAFE ENVIRONMENT to work in with customers firing their guns around the place!!

 

Hopefully James is able to pull through , it's not looking great :-(

You'll come round to the smoking ban , as I said it came in here years ago and at first I thought it would never stick . But people just got used to it and realised it's for the best .

 

For god sake.... it is not an unreasonable law.....passive smoking kills.... i smoke but I know its not an unreasonable reques. What about peoples personal freedom to go to the pub and not stink of smoke. Its a bad habit and the government shouldnt encourage it.

On a note about James. He was a good guy, used to train in Harlesden, respected by everyone who knew him as a gentlemen. Hope to god he pulls through, but it doesnt look good

 

I don't smoke so it doesn't affect me personally. Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with owners or managers of any premises banning smoking(or any other activity for that matter) The problem I have is with the Nanny State removing that freedom from individuals to make their own choice.

Haven't heard anything about James today. I'm sure everyone is keeping their fingers crossed for good news and hopefully his attackers will be caught.

 

How do you feel about the nanny state and their restrictions on gun ownership and use?