JAMES TONEY 2003 vs DAVID HAYE 2008

James Toney TODAY takes his overrated Brit ass to school.

 

I would take James Toney by stoppage.

I think he would have the perfect style to absorb Haye's speed and power early on. I think that would really frustrate David when he can't knock him out, or even stun him.

Haye would have a nice lead at this point, but I think he'd start to lose energy and Toney takes him into the trenches from round 6. I think Toney would start to get closer as Haye's footwork loses crispness, he likes to walk out of range. Then I see Toney getting in the pocket, working him, and popping him with right hands. I think he has the power to hurt Haye, and stop him late.

 

Old school vs Modern technology

I pick Old school - pending a drug test

 

I like Haye, and I can't stand James Toney, but I think Toney wins.
The Toney of the Jirov fight was the last time we saw something resembling a very good fighter in James Toney. Toney's chin is too good, and the Toney of 2003 had enough stamina and pop to fight back. Haye would wail away at Toney, but eventually Haye gets tired and this will allow Toney to rally and stop him late.
I rarely get the chance to say it but...Toney wins by KO.

 

I've never thought much of Haye as a 12 round fighter. Credit to him because he hasn't needed to be up to this point, but surely in this instance he would need the attributes to fight 12 hard rounds against a guy that has only ever been hurt at heavyweight years past his prime, and once over 15 years ago.

You can just tell from his style this guy ain't going to fight 12 at a steady pace. The way he walks around and then leaps in throwing huge right hands, reset, throw more right hands. There is no effort to fight at a steady pace, or think about spreading himself thinner for the distance. Round 8 onwards Toney takes him to hell.

 

Toney's defence and chin keep him alive in the early rounds.

As the fight continues, Haye's lack of long-fight experience and Toney's conditioning (back then) turns the tide. Toney's boxing skills take over on a tiring Haye, whose pop has diminished.

Maybe a KO, but probably a UD for Toney.

 

Sorry gamp... but all Haye's fans saw the fight with the Cat.

 

I just posted in another thread that the Toney of 2003 is very close to the best Toney we saw. Toney at 190 beats Haye because of his chin and ability to counterpunch, using Haye's aggression against him.

I actually agree that Toney may even stop Haye late in what wouldn't necessarily be that close of a fight. Toney tko 10.

 

I do not get why people think Haye is a great fighter. The man has not done a darn thing! And he has a chin of glass.

I am not a big Toney fan but he can show up out of shape and still do a damn good job in the ring for an out of shape boxer. Toney wins hands down.

 

Toney late rounds stoppage due to accumulation.

 

I would pick Toney without a doubt,even by mid to late KO.
Haye would get frustrated by not knocking his man out,lose focus,Toney would just get closer and closer to him easily countering those wild haymakers.And altough since the Thompson debacle Haye's stamina has improved I'm still not sold on it and I think he would fold later and get stopped.