James Toney '92 (McCallum rematch) vs. Winky Wright '05 (Trinidad), 160lbs

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    These dates are the most feasible overlap in weight where both looked very good.

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  2. horst

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    Toney looked much better in the 1st McCallum fight than he did in the 2nd IMO. That version of Toney outskills any version of Winky IMO. Comfortable UD in an engaging fight.
     
  3. teeto

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    I'd say Toney. It's the atg footwork or mobility that hurst Toney imo, and Winky doesn't have that. Toney would have to work to open up his man's defence, there'd be a lot of defensive tricks going on here. Toney just.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    I don't see either of these dudes stopping the other even if they fought 20 times. I go with Toney. More natural at the weight.
    Hell, more natural at everything boxing related to boot. No disrespect to Winky.
     
  5. bodhi

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    Stylewise Winky is made for Toney. Winky will come at him sticking out the jab. Toney is also the bigger guy. On the other hand Winky is damned hard to catch cleanly. I would lean to Toney based on his style and size advantage but I could invision a fight in which Toney hardly lands anything clean while Winky lands his jab continually winning him the fight.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He certainly landed harder stuff overall the first time around (but then, so did Mike), but in the rematch the gulf seemed to widen - on more than just the official cards. You don't think James was a good bit more in control? IMO he generaled Mike pretty well - particularly by keeping his shoulder squared up under his nose and pivoting to bang out of those quasi-clinches where McCallum looked kind of helpless.

    Those calling the rematch a robbery are basically outing themselves as pure "workrate scorers".

    The second performance was the more complete in a boxing sense, even though he probably did more damage a few months earlier. Just my opinion - hence the selection of this one.

    Besides, the more disciplined infighting approach is the better tool for the job against Winky than the wide bombs from outside.

    Let's also bear in mind that while Winky wasn't natural at middleweight, he dropped an absolute clinic on Tito (who, to be fair, wasn't very natural there either). I certainly think James had more pop than Tito, but Winky just had those iron forearms - and when the stormclouds really started to amass he had perfect instincts as to when and how to move so as not to get backed into in a bad spot. It was really a display of impeccable defense and counterpunching.

    This would be really that rare mix of both beautiful and entertaining. My feeling is Toney, but hardly by a shutout.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Really, Classic? This fight rocks my socks. :conf

    Are people just not taking Winky seriously in this? He's unquestionably the underdog but he'd be competitive in my estimation. He'd make James earn it, every round.