James Toney: ATG Chin?

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  1. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was wondering what some of the classic regulars thing of Toney's chin. Is it a product of his good defense, or does he has one of the top chins of all time.

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  2. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think he has a very good chin, but like roy jones, i dont really know which fighters hit toney flush in his entire career untill he moved up to heavy weight.

    however, reggie johnson who was very similar in some ways to roy jones but a southpaw seemed to hurt toney at least once in their split decision fight.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Amazing chin, but overrated.

    He doesn't eat shots flush the way less talented fighters have, such as Chuvalo or McCall.

    More defensive skill than it is sheer durability.
     
  4. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, I wouldn't rank his chin quite up there with, say, LaMotta or Chuvalo, as he generally doesn't take many clean shots and has been decked/wobbled on the very rare occasion, but certainly a man such as he who has fought numerous elite fighters across multiple divisions- including a hard-hitting heavyweight in Peter- and never been stopped has an absolute top-of-the-line set of whiskers.
     
  5. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Interesting way to put it, I can't say I don't disagree with you. I remember thinking during the Peter fights that his chin has to be among the best ever, but lately I've been souring on the idea Peter is a huge puncher, so I started thinking about this. But, I seem to think that the fact he started at 160 and is 230ish now and has still never been knockedout or even really hurt (Peter II, aside) I think that has to day something. However, I agree with you about his defense. He has a type of defense that could have him avoiding punches from heavyweights, especially the slower ones, until his 60's, lol.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was in more dangerous territory when he was at the lower weights, honestly. Faster hands meant he was actually tagged at times. He was almost stopped on his feet once, for starters.

    Honestly, mentioning him going to 230 is kind of beyond the point. The gap's 40 pounds, really, not 70. Middleweight to heavy. Him being 30 pounds over 200 is just him being fat, not a plus for him.

    Consider that Pacquaio's moved up around 40 pounds from the first weight he boxed at himself.