If we replaced Shavers with Toney of the Holy field ko ,how's he do against Ali ?.Toney s old school tricks against the greatest ? Could Light s out produce a holyfield type performance here ..or is Muhammad holding on to that belt ?
If Toney turns up like he did against Holy then I think yes he can outpoint that Ali. He might even make Ali look a fool at times
Yez Birmingham ,Toney against holy field ..he was perfect that night. He ripped the heck out of him .And holy field still had a few good performances i n him , so not completely done. So against Ali ,bringing that level to the fight you have to give him a realistic chance. I think Ali would find him very frustrating ,being caught time after time and maybe missing his jab often. And Toney won't be fazed by Muhammad s rep either.
No chance. He would not win rounds trying to counter the Ali jab. And I still think Muhammad's reflexes were good enough at that time to land lead right hands on James. That shoulder roll would not work at all & Ali would still be turning him and peppering away with the flicking jab. He knew how to throw the flashy combos the judges loved and Toney would be covering up---thereby not winning rounds. Ali would turn it into a footwork fight and it'd be about as competitive scoring wise as when Toney fought Jones.
The ali nut huggers are boring like hell. Ali 81 beats foreman,tyson,frazier ,lewis and king kong with a hand in back
Sorry Russ ,but its majority rule's in a Democratic society and heavy weights are the most talked about .That's life I'm afraid , just got to suck it up.