James Toney Heavyweight :Could he beat Ali of the Shaver's Fight ?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If we replaced Shavers with Toney of the Holy field ko ,how's he do against Ali ?.Toney s old school tricks against the greatest ?
    Could Light s out produce a holyfield type performance here ..or is Muhammad holding on to that belt ?
     
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If Toney turns up like he did against Holy then I think yes he can outpoint that Ali. He might even make Ali look a fool at times
     
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  3. Fergy

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    Yez Birmingham ,Toney against holy field ..he was perfect that night. He ripped the heck out of him .And holy field still had a few good performances i n him , so not completely done. So against Ali ,bringing that level to the fight you have to give him a realistic chance. I think Ali would find him very frustrating ,being caught time after time and maybe missing his jab often. And Toney won't be fazed by Muhammad s rep either.
     
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  4. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think that it would be competitive at least
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    As competitive as Ali Norton 3 at least.
     
  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No chance. He would not win rounds trying to counter the Ali jab.

    And I still think Muhammad's reflexes were good enough at that time to land lead right hands on James. That shoulder roll would not work at all & Ali would still be turning him and peppering away with the flicking jab. He knew how to throw the flashy combos the judges loved and Toney would be covering up---thereby not winning rounds.

    Ali would turn it into a footwork fight and it'd be about as competitive scoring wise as when Toney fought Jones.
     
  7. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The ali nut huggers are boring like hell. Ali 81 beats foreman,tyson,frazier ,lewis and king kong with a hand in back
     
  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize that this is the 77' version of Ali?
     
  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Can I get a second vote to ban/limit heavyweight discussion in classic?
     
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  10. Fergy

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    Sorry Russ ,but its majority rule's in a Democratic society and heavy weights are the most talked about .That's life I'm afraid , just got to suck it up.
     
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  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, that's the truth of it sadly. :(