James Toney (prime vs Barkley) vs Andre Ward (prime vs Froch)

I wouldnt say that the Froch fight is Ward's best, he is still developing.

But judging by Wards current skillset Il still have to give the nod to James Toney, ALTHOUGH the fight is stylistically very difficult for Toney

 

I would depend on which Toney showed up back then he would come in out of shape at time. In shape focused Toney win, the other toney loses. Truthfully I think Toney's defense was better than Floyds, I only remember him taking a couple of clean shots one against RJJ the other against Sam Peter.

 

Ward all day, Toney is one of the most overrated fighters of all time.

Also if he takes the test he's going to get his ass kicked :deal

 

Ward has exactly the right style to give Toney problems. Totally different than Barkley.
But c'mon, Toney, on that night, was on top of his game - maybe his best night ever. And, in that shape, one of the very best SMWs ever. He was just so good, such slick movements, intelligent boxing, seeing everything. And don't forget Toneys handspeed - he displayed it against Barkley, fast combinations that would get through Wards defence too. Ward can't hurt Toney, and I guess Toney would have fought a bit more aggressive against Ward (many people forget that Toney could fight coming forward too). I can see Toney winning a clear UD here.

 

Ward will never reach Toney's level

 

Toney as skilled better defense with more pop ..

 

ahhhhh never though of this match up... Toney via SD.... this one is a counter fest... Toney counters better and is very slick.. so I give him the nod.. Ward is slick too but is still there to get hit by Toney....

 

Ward might go alright...but smart money is on James tappin dat ass. He was brilliant that night, for real.

 

Tony was very sharp in that fight no shame to lose to him by ko.
Hopkins loses as well

 

Toney's defence leaked punches, he got hit alot (not flush), Toney is a better counter puncher than Ward and maybe more skilled, but ward can vary his offence more, like it or not is better at dirty boxing using his head

50/50 but have to go with toney since seen more of him fight, ward might yet improve

Toney gets overrated,

 

The Toney who fought Barkley would even have given prime Roy Jones all he could handle.

That Toney wins a decisions against Ward.

 

I was thinking that would have been alot closer fight Roy would have still won but I could see tony wining 4 with Roy winning 6