James Toney should have retired after fighting Jirov

I just want to see Toney weighing between 220 - 230lbs and seeing how he fares against either one of the hw champs. He has been calling out the Klitscho for a long time. Why hasn't this fight happened yet?

I want to see his skills against the big big men and if he does get beaten badly then just retire.

The drug charge against him was a joke. His body has never been muscled at hw.

 

:roflatsch....you Toney nuthuggers are hilarious.

 

His destruction of Holyfield has looked better as time has gone on

 

The drug Toney got banned for was a stamina improver not a muscle builder

 

Yep toney was a cheat his whole career is in doubt.. He probably was juicing against Jirov and against holy ( they both were probably on someting TBH ) we all know that he was caught against ruiz, and against some bum after.

 

Not true. Nadrolone is used for muscle growth.
It’s commonly used in bodybuilding.


Toney used it for his bicep injury

 

he went up had a decent win/ko over holyfield and then (if he didnt fail the drug test) won a hw title over Ruiz....

 

not true. Toney claimed that it had been rescribed for his muscle injury and his physitian denied prescribing it. Not to mention that he got caught a second time afterwards. The man is a cheat, stop trying to defend it.

 

From Espn

In a fight last fall, Toney severely injured his biceps and triceps. Co-promoter Dan Goossen said Toney's treatment for the injury was to blame for the positive result.

"Toney received medical treatment for recovery from his biceps and triceps surgery last year," Goossen said in a statement. "His doctor has stated that the combination of medications used to control the inflammation and tissue growth caused the positive test result. This is further supported, since the body, in combination with the medications, naturally create the form of substance reflected in the test results.

"It would be unjust for the sport to reprimand a fighter who was under a doctor's care and direction many months before in healing a career threatening injury."

 

Actually his last great fight was against Peter in the first fight. Getting outboxed by Peter in the rematch and getting stunned by Matt f'n Greer are clear signs that Toney is done. It's easy to dismiss the Holyfield fight now but it was a great win as many saw Holyfield to be too big for Toney though arguably losing three times to Ruiz is a clear indication that Holyfield was donet by then. Speaking of him, he should've retired after his last great effort against someone worth a ****(Lewis rematch).

 

TBH, Toney's whole career has been an up and down experience. Had he had more discipline he wouldn't have to have struggled for weight scales the many times he did(against RJJ for example). Still, he's one of the few guys to give a prime Roy a good fight so I'll give him that. He's pretty fun to watch when he cares but it's his inconsistencies that have plagued his career not just with weight but in the ring aswell(taking rounds off, not fighting enough to really dictate rounds, etc). Nonetheless, he's an ATG/future HOF'er that has never backed down from fighting anyone.

 

ide like toney to beat up bums regularly just so i can see him do his thing with ease,and entertain us with his trash talk.

but i doubt he beats any of the Heavyweight champions,maybe gives them a tad bit of trouble for a few rounds,but also he barely gets past the top contenders.

hes had too many close fights at heavy,he hasnt bothered to be in shape,and you get out what you put in,and he hasnt put in much towards fight preperations.