James toney: The best I've faced

I always thought Jirov fought a stupid fight. but it gave us the FOTY :happy

 

Jirovs white a bigot like Toney would never credit a white fighter.

 

Roy relied on speed, McCallum on not making a single mistake and never, ever being out of position.

Two different animals, but I know which one I'd rather put in a book to teach youngsters how to box. Mimicking Roy, unless you are a similar type of freak, is simply ugly, waiting to get knocked out fighting.

Unorthodox only serves a fighter if he's bringing something else(Brute strength, big hands, blazing fast-twitch muscle fibers) to the table. If you bring none of the above, unorthodox is, usually, just a PC word for bad boxer.

 

Well, their 3rd fight was at CW when McCallum was 167 years old... it was McCallum's last pro fight. Prime vs. Prime? I'll take McCallum in a close fight.

 

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Jones displayed his awesome in-fighting skill by putting up his gloves and laying against the ropes. His great feinting ability led to Montell Griffin literally laughing at his half-hearted attempts while the 5'7 terror of light heavyweights kept frustrating Jones who was bent on trying to outbox him (until realizing that he could literally just walk through Griffin with his physical advantages).

He was smart about utilizing his exceptional abilities which were without a doubt the result of rigorous training as well as talent, but if it's up to technical skill in all areas, McCallum has it over him. Reasons have already been explained for the most part.

Jones grew too fond of breaking all the rules only because he could, and as a result cannot truly be mentioned among the great technicians. He's still trying to fight as if he was 25 years old, which displays that the technical skills which were supposed to be there behind all his speed and flash, weren't necessarily there after all or he completely forgot about them.

 

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He tried countering Griffin off the ropes, but Griffin was very tricky. Roy was a very good inside fighter.

 

He didn't look too skilled on the inside to me. Sosa was about the crudest brawler you could get and Roy was hardly pulling a Toney-Barkley performance in close there, he was actually taking a few hits from Sosa's clubbing blows while unnecessarily positioned against the ropes and landed his best punches once he created space.

McCallum didn't have the option of doubling or tripling up on a left uppercut while still being able to move away from the opponent's punches. He relied on positioning, gaining proper leverage on the inside, subtle footwork that allowed him to work different angles seemingly effortlessly and accurate placement of punching, techniques that he was still able to pull off well into his 30's.

I'm not trying to denigrate Jones while hyping up McCallum, it's just how I see it. There are things that Jones was more exceptional at than McCallum, but inside fighting certainly wasn't one of them.

 

.Funny how you talk about Sosa being crude then bring up Barkley.Toney was getting hit in the Barkley fight. Roy was fighting off the ropes well. Spoiling Sosa's right hand and flurrying out. He picked his spots well and smothered Sosa's punches. Fought his fight and was clearly winning with little damage.


Roy was shading away from the left hook on the ropes while he held Sosa's right. His position was just fine. His feet were excellent. He was able to spin off the ropes while still in position to punch.

 

Who else read that in Toney's voice? Lol

 

I brought up Barkley for exactly that reason, both were crude brawlers. Roy did well enough to manage on the inside and find ways out of those situations once he wanted to, but he did his damage at range. I just don't see this as much of a showing of his infighting ability, not that he ever truly needed it with his quick feet. He stayed on the ropes for a while, got out and then started landing at will on Sosa after creating some space.

 

Thanks. You put it well.