James Toney the greatest Super Middle of all time as of now??

Hopefully Froch beats him

 

I'd be up for that. Prefer Froch to Ward, I find Ward pretty dull, even though he is very good.

 

Cool

I hope Froch wins. Not the slickest fighter but he is an exciting fighter.

 

Not a slick fighter, but slickness is not all there is. Froch is a damn good fighter.

 

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I should of used the word fluid. Do you think he deserves to be in the top ten smw list?

 

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and Calzaghe didn't fight jokes at 168? a drained Toney is better than peak Kessler

 

I dont understand how people can play down the Toney win by saying he was weight drained. It's Toneys own fault for not making the weight properly not Jones's.

 

and RJJ gave him a 12-0 boxing lesson. did what he had to do, dominate. how can anyone downplay that win

 

Born in london.

I agree his wbo reign means hardly anything. The length of time he spent at the top does mean something to me though.

But I agree, the s6 winner unifying with bute would certainly be on that level. A rematch victory over mikel (assuming he's wbo champ by then) would underline the status as goat imo.

Other than that, what else could they do to improve? Defend against martinez and dirrell? Most likely outcome is a move up in weight imo.

 

Why would you call him London's Finest if he isn't English?! Anyway, who cares, minor issue.

If Ward beats Froch and Bute, I already rank him higher than Calfagz. Kessler, Dirrell and Martinez would just be extra gravy.

 

Haven't ever given any thought to an all-time top 10 smw's, but off the cuff I'd say he probably does sneak into it. Needs to avenge that annoying loss to Kessler though. Froch is much better than MK and needs to prove it beyond doubt.

 

Thanks for the reply

He should beat MK the next time they meet

 

**** off. toney isnt even top 10 ATG super middleweight

 

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