James Toney v Joe Calzaghe: The Resume

You're including amateur wins on his resume??? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I wouldn't mind so much if it were like that guy who beat Tyson in the amateurs (was it Tillman or something?) but to drag up an amateur win over Glen Catley?? :shock:

 

Says the guy who joined the forum this weekend...

... and has spent all his time since Friday posting !

And now he talks about the forum and its members as if he were a veteran !

(Unless he was on here before and had to leave and come back with a new username ?)

83 posts!

And 60 of them (over 72 %) about Calzaghe.

Are you trying to outdo Presscott in the obsession category ?

 

The point is not how many posts the guy has, it's that he joined on Friday and on Sunday is posting about how posters always do this or that, when he's only been on two days.

E.g.

If i joined a club, i don't think I'd be telling everyone all about the ins and outs of it two days later, or if i moved to a new workplace, i wouldn't discuss the organizational culture of the place two days later, as if I'd been there for years.



Regarding the 60 of 83 posts on a single boxer, it does point to obsession and it is valid to point it out, especially in the face of the name-calling and the nature of the posts.

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It's possible he'll post on other topics with time, but for the moment, he seems as obsessed with Calzaghe as Presscott is with Oscar.

 

On June 21, at 11:18 PM, You began a thread titled : " What really happened when DLH fought B-Hop?? "

see link:
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72487

In your first post in that thread, you stated:

That's what prompted my question: " How long have you been a fan ? "

With all respect, I'm fine with your opinions and your defence of those opinions, but take a look at how the thread started:

When Sean joined your thread and pointed out some truths about Toney's resume, you told him (rightly perhaps):

And then , when he did just as you suggested, you told him:

Im at a bit of a loss here. What's old Sean supposed to do, if anything ?


You state:

Are you suggesting that Sean is just a fanboy, saying the opposite due to fanboy bias ?

Didn't he present (as per your invite) a reasoned response to your question?



If not, and if it's so obvious, why even start a thread on the topic and invite debate?

I'm not trying to be a *****, here.

I just wonder if you aren't getting so caught up in the cut and thrust of the debate that you forgot why the thread was started.

I am definitely not seeking an apology here, just trying to better understand where you're coming from.




BTW, Im still wading through the threads you initiated and the discussions they engendered are most interesting. I'm sorry I missed July and half of August as I would have liked to contribute.

Keep on postin', dude !:good

 

The fact that Calzaghe fans bring up KO wins over Glen Catley and Chris Byrd in the amateurs is proof enough of Calzaghe's lack of a resume.

While we're at it, why don't we add Sam Soliman (a current super middleweight) and Vernon Forrest to Kostya Tszyu's resume? KT dominated Soliman in SPARRING, and Forrest was beaten in the amateurs. Wow, Tszyu's resume does look nicer now.

You know what? We also need to add Pacquiao's KO wins over Jose A. Santa Cruz and domination of Israel Vazquez when they SPARRED WITH HEADGEAR. Also add rising 140-lbs. prospect Victor Ortiz, Gerry Penalosa, and Edwin Valero for sparring with Pacquiao too. Damn, now Pacquiao is head and shoulders ahead of Calzaghe for P4P #1!!!

 

Oooooooooooo, did I hit a nerve?

I see the Slappy fanboys are now so crazy they will pick on any loose threads they can. :-(

A casual glance over this forum can tell you what I mentioned to PACFAN84... too many posters on this forum will post stuff knowing nothing about the subject matter they are discussing. Furthermore, some of them are obviously wind-up artists. I thought PACFAN was taking the argument wayyyyyyyyyyy too seriously when it was obvious that CHJ was winding him up. You see it on a lot of these boxing forums.

You don't need to be a genius to see that. Then again, look who I'm talking to... :roll:


Love the percentile breakdown of my posting though - really impressive. The Slappy Joe nuthuggers on Sweet Science are nothing compared to here... keep up the good work! :good

 

Let me ask you something... why does it bother you so much?

I mean obviously there are folks here with different opinions on things - some reasonable, some not.

So what difference does it make to you that I'm not a Slappy fan?

You keep accusing me of obsession with Slappy Joe when it seems you're really the one obsessed with me.

As for your comment about telling folks of an organization I just joined how it works - well what can I say? I just figure these things out quickly. And having viewed this forum even before I joined I'm merely stating the obvious.

What you really should be asking yourself is, "why am I so riled by it?"

You're not related to Slappy are you?

I mean hopefully he's not your son or something?

 

you are one patronising ****.

you accuse me of being childish and stubborn like some little kid

then you say i am a kid because i clearly do not know about 1990`s boxing or thats your guess that i am quite young.

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on the other hand you have intimated that you were a man in 1990 when you started watching james toney.




you have said you are studying for a phd
you have said you share a computer with your mate


you stated on another thread you are new to boxing.
you state on another thread you are not new to boxing.

so you are a 40 to 50 something studying poetry for a phd and sharing your computer with a mate but using the same username , while one of you has followed boxing for 20 or 30 years the other had no intrest up until recently but both decided to join a boxing forum at the same time.

hold on there `s a pig flying outside my window.

 

ok muppet debate your superior knowledge over this young kid i am.

i put up tim littles and woodhall for a comparison.

you did not even deem it worthy to reply putting to ?? as if it was not worth your time.

littles a decent boxer puncher with the best wins of his career coming in a non title fight v frankie liles and a win outpointing jon scully in a non title fight.

he lost his only 2 world title fight attempts and retired

1 win in his whole career v a top 10 opponent /no belts and nothing to remember him bye.

woodhall olympic bronze medalist was the british/commonwealth and european champ

won the world title

beat former or reigning world champs like branco world light heavy champ in his prime woodhall ko`d him in a european title fight at light middle

malinaga who beat reid in a world title fight woodhall beat

nardiello former champ in a world title fight

catley in a world title fight
lost to holmes and calzaghe in other title fights late after being very competitive, and in retirement has an /olympic /british/commonwealth/european and world title fights belts on his resume.

despite starting at a lower weight woodhall was a big 6.2 man /had a solid chin and was very sound fundamentally.

little 5.11 was a decent fighter but lacked a chin and never acheived anything as a pro .

why should a win over littles be worth more than a win over a fighter with a much better resume and career at the same weight.

littles fell apart anytime anyone ever got near that chin.

 

toney, clearly.