James Toney v Sumbu Kulambay

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good matchup. Hard to pick a winner. If I had to bet I'd say Toney SD. Thoughts?
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed Toney by SD. Some might bring up the Johnson and Griffin fights.I thought Toney won those fights.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Sumbu could have James frustrated to make it a very close run thing, I'll go with the above.
    Toney split Dec.
     
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  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Excellent fight. That 160 class in the early 90's was stacked!
     
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  5. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    This.

    I remember seeing the top 10 ranking in '91 @ 160. Never saw a division so stacked before!

    So many great fighters, but so many great fights never happened.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Oh my. I can see either winning a SD, as mentioned.
     
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  7. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toss a coin ! Both would have to be at their best .
     
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  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney should win, but his discipline at Middleweight was very poor at times, thus as mentioned, it is a close fight. Toney 7/5
     
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  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kalambay by decision.

    He's too slick to stand in the pocket with James and would make Toney come to him all night long. Tony would be outhustled.
     
  10. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kalambay's peak was 87-89.

    That version is too slick for Toney.
     
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  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, Toney never looked good as against slick movers, and they didn't come much better at MW than Sumbu.

    Man what a joy to watch he was. The sheer beauty of what he did in the ring makes it hard to believe it's something as brutal as boxing.
     
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  12. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like i'm in the minority but i'd go for Kalambay by close decision.
     
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  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While it is not unreasonable to argue that Kalambay wins a close one, you do not outhustle an in shape Toney.It is a myth which is entirely based on the Tiberi fight where Toney was a dead man. In his other losses against Griffin, Toney actually threw more punches.
    Anyway, your pick is no surprise because you consisitently pick against Toney
     
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  14. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney was a more aggressive fighter at MW and threw more punches. This would be a really close fight. Toss up fight for me.I’ll slightly favor Kalambay due to his jab and mobility.

    Both guys were beautiful to watch in the ring and this fight would be a boxing purists dream match. Toney vs McCallum 1 & 2 and McCallum vs Kalambay 2 were some of the best pure boxing matches, so I can imagine Toney vs Kalambay being a highly entertaining chess match as well.
     
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  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Kalambay by UD.