James Toney vs 70s George Foreman (15 rounds) - challenger withstanding

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I was trolling but I'll bite on this complete hypothetical I have literally no way of proving:

    Corbett in his 1925 autobiography apparently said that Sullivan was just as fast on both his hands and feet as Dempsey. In that fight against George Robinson in 1884 that Corbett saw, newspapers estimated that Sullivan weighed as much as 220lbs. A 220 pound aggressive freight train with Dempsey's speed is a terrifying thought, Sullivan may have been shorter but he was stockier and may have been more durable as a result too. In his fight with Kilrain, long past his peak, Sullivan was estimated to be between 207-220+ pounds (in one newspaper I recall Sullivan claiming he weighed 248 pounds against Kilrain but I haven't seen a contemporary go THAT far lol) and he went for 76 rounds in that fight where he was also the one constantly pushing the pace in. If a dissipated, past prime Sullivan could go on for that long imagine how well a Sullivan from the early 80s would do. I already wouldn't count Dempsey out against Toney or George, imagine if he had an extra 30 pounds on him while maintaining his speed and style.

    Just leave it to me to make a Toney-Foreman thread about John L. Sullivan lol, but carry on.
     
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  2. Journeyman92

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  3. Journeyman92

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    What’s most amusing about this whole thread is the greatest Foreman supporters here couldn’t even cobble together a decent “rebuking” this thread is a permanent monument to truth.
     
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  4. Journeyman92

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    Is this the biggest duck in BF24 history? Will Rollin have the chin and heart to continue?
     
  5. ThatOne

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    Toney was a defensive back, not a lineman.
     
  6. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a permanent monument to lies. Also some PEDs but mostly lies.
     
  7. Journeyman92

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    What lies have been told?
     
  8. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Toney>Foreman or defend yourself"

    What the actual gloved god?

    Toney couldn't defend his belt at HW because he popped for PEDs. Toney got shutout by RJJ at MW. Toney is a great P4P fighter but Foreman doesn't need no qualifier for his greatness.

    I saw this thread as the weeks have passed and just assumed the Toneyites were getting destroyed like Toney would if he fought Foreman. So imagine my horror to open this thread up.
     
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  9. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Frazier was Toney's favorite fighter. As to the fight George's shoving literally negated Joe's entire offense.
     
  10. Journeyman92

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    Being shut out by RJJ has nothing to do with a fight between Foreman and Toney? Unless you see some similarity between RJJ and Foreman? The way his overrating is going you may find a link there somewhere LOL - there are pages of me breaking this down and a lot more more of people with there fingers in there ears trying to pretend it’s obvious without contributing anything… are you going to contribute? I can empty a whole clip worth of debating this match up HAPPILY - debate or kick rocks SIR.
     
  11. Journeyman92

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    Imagine thinking you can pull, shove or push a shoulder roll… da faq? - what do you mean by this btw lol.
     
  12. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You've found a glitch where defenders of an ATG HW aren't used to defending their merits against a MW. We are used to defending Foreman against Ali and Louis and maybe someone like Klitschko, Lennox or Holmes. You've mistaken catching people off guard with your audacity for a strong position.

    I will return in a few days.
     
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  13. Journeyman92

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    No you won’t
     
  14. SouthpawsRule

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    Foreman kills the little man lmao what is this?